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2012 lines on 2 ND games out

  • From the Golden Nuggett in Vegas:

    ND -1 vs Michigan
    ND +12 @ Oklahoma

    Thoughts?

    My luck w/the Irish 18-6...GO IRISH!!!

    simm

  • I'll bet ND both games! Love the 12pt dogs and UM game will change I bet. I'd take ND there as well.

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  • The Michigan line surprises me. I know we're home, but that isn't really much of an advantage lately.

    PBeuerlein

  • PBeuerlein,

    Agreed, but home games generally account for plus-3. Also, each of the last three years ND was in the lead versus Michigan with 30 or fewer seconds left, so it's not like there has been a clear domination during this winning streak by UM.

    Winning out at home for the first time since 1998 has to be a foremost priority.

    Lou Somogyi

  • Honestly I think 12 is being nice considering all the talk about how we will get dominated in Norman

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  • very safe bets for michigan and okie.

    easy money to bet against nd on those. im surprised for sure.

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  • I saw a couple more spreads on twitter yesterday.

    ND -9.5 over Miami
    It said its the first time since 1982 that ND is favored over the Canes. (Could that be right?)

    ND +13 over USC
    Said ND hasn't been a double digit dog since 2008, but they are twice this season (USC and Oklahoma)

    The Maestro

  • 4Navy vs. Notre Dame (-13.5)

    Notre Dame at Michigan State (-3)

    Michigan at Notre Dame (-1)

    Miami vs. Notre Dame (-9.5)

    Stanford at Notre Dame (-5)

    BYU at Notre Dame (-9)

    Notre Dame at Oklahoma (-11)

    Pittsburgh at Notre Dame (-12.5)

    Notre Dame at Boston College (+12)

    Notre Dame at USC (-13)

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  • So if it's say -9 that means ND is favored by 9 points?

    And a +12 would mean ND is expected to lose by 12 points?

    Sorry guys, my gambling knowledge extends to poker and that's about it.

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  • 19BlueAndGold85 said...

    So if it's say -9 that means ND is favored by 9 points?

    And a +12 would mean ND is expected to lose by 12 points?

    Sorry guys, my gambling knowledge extends to poker and that's about it.

    The +12 is for Boston College since it is at BC. ND is favored by 12 points @ Boston College right now.

    The team the +/- is beside is how you determine the favorite. It's the home team for the game on that side. ND is favored in 7 of the 10 games listed as the Purdue and Wake Forest games were not listed(would presume 10-13 point favorites in those games compared to the others listed).

    Hope this makes more sense. As Lou noted above the standard for the home team is a 3 point advantage. So USC at -13 means theoretically on a neutral field they would be -10 or 10 point favorites.

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  • WE ARE ND76 said...

    4Navy vs. Notre Dame (-13.5)

    Notre Dame at Michigan State (-3)

    Michigan at Notre Dame (-1)

    Miami vs. Notre Dame (-9.5)

    Stanford at Notre Dame (-5)

    BYU at Notre Dame (-9)

    Notre Dame at Oklahoma (-11)

    Pittsburgh at Notre Dame (-12.5)

    Notre Dame at Boston College (+12)

    Notre Dame at USC (-13)

    The two games that stick out as a surprise to me are that we are favored by so many against are BYU, who will be a top 15-20 team when we play them, and Stanford.

    My luck w/the Irish 18-6...GO IRISH!!!

    simm

  • simm said...

    The two games that stick out as a surprise to me are that we are favored by so many against are BYU, who will be a top 15-20 team when we play them, and Stanford.

    BYU is a trap game if I've ever seen one. Watch out for Purdue as well. They should be a much improved team with 19 starters returning, and they made through spring ball healthy for the first time in awhile.

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  • I haven't seen any Vegas lines on all ND games... period... you are not to be believed

    svsubalum

  • svsubalum said...

    I haven't seen any Vegas lines on all ND games... period... you are not to be believed

    That's funny! You may be the only real gambler on here!

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  • svsubalum said...

    I haven't seen any Vegas lines on all ND games... period... you are not to be believed

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1217271-notre-dame-football-early-vegas-lines-for-irish-are-a-sign-of-good-things

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  • 19BlueAndGold85 said...

    BYU is a trap game if I've ever seen one.

    BYU will be a top 20 team when we play them. A game against a ranked team CANNOT be considered a trap game!

    My luck w/the Irish 18-6...GO IRISH!!!

    simm

  • simm said...

    BYU will be a top 20 team when we play them. A game against a ranked team CANNOT be considered a trap game!

    Actually BYU will be 5-2 when we play them with losses on Oct 15th at Utah ( who will be a contender for the Pac 12 ) and 5 days later at Boise State. A 5-2 BYU will not be in the top 20, and with them positioned between Stanford and Oklahoma it might be easy to overlook a 5-2 BYU team. Therefore, Trap Game.

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  • First of all, LOVING IT that there is a posting about gambling lines, I thought it was possibly taboo here, but this opens up a world of possibilities for future posts and entertaining reads.

    The Maestro and 19blueandgold85.

    Maestro, good question about us NOT being favored against Miami. 1989 and 1990 stick out. The first one we were ranked #1 going into the game vs #7 Miami in the Orange bowl. Though Miami was riding like a 25 game home winning streak. 1990 we both had one loss, they were #2, we were #6, we were at home. IT would be surpinsing we werent favored in either, yet it is possible.

    19BnG85, "trap" is a word I often use to illustrate where "the HERD" is moving, which is I think what you mean also. We all know that Sheep travel in herds, and sheep get slaughtered. I have made it a habit to watch closely for traps, pick them selectively(maybe 1 every week or two), and bet the other way when I see it.

    To illustrate a quick example(of which there are dozens upon dozens), I remember one in particular for an NBA playoff game. The whole series, depending WHERE(home or away) the game was being played, the home team was giving 3. In this particular game 6 the home team(whom I was a fan of) was GETTING 2.5. I remember thinking, "Its over, we're sunk... we wont win tonight" and I sat and listened with head shaking to talking heads on TV or on the radio speak of how great an opportunity on the line it was. An opportunity it certainly was, to go with the AWAY team who wound up winning by 7 or 8.

    Navy only minus 13.5 scares me, I would like our chances more at 14.5. Also Miami at 9.5 would be liked better at 10.5 by me. But USC at 13 is nice, at 14.5 or 15 we have a tougher uphill battle.

    Watch out for TRAPS everybody! :)

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  • Underdog by 3 to Michigan St., 11 to Oklahoma, and 13 to USC. I think we beat MSU, and even if we lose to OU and USC, I'll take 10-2 in a heartbeat.

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  • coachcft said...

    First of all, LOVING IT that there is a posting about gambling lines, I thought it was possibly taboo here, but this opens up a world of possibilities for future posts and entertaining reads.

    The Maestro and 19blueandgold85.

    Maestro, good question about us NOT being favored against Miami. 1989 and 1990 stick out. The first one we were ranked #1 going into the game vs #7 Miami in the Orange bowl. Though Miami was riding like a 25 game home winning streak. 1990 we both had one loss, they were #2, we were #6, we were at home. IT would be surpinsing we werent favored in either, yet it is possible.

    19BnG85, "trap" is a word I often use to illustrate where "the HERD" is moving, which is I think what you mean also. We all know that Sheep travel in herds, and sheep get slaughtered. I have made it a habit to watch closely for traps, pick them selectively(maybe 1 every week or two), and bet the other way when I see it.

    To illustrate a quick example(of which there are dozens upon dozens), I remember one in particular for an NBA playoff game. The whole series, depending WHERE(home or away) the game was being played, the home team was giving 3. In this particular game 6 the home team(whom I was a fan of) was GETTING 2.5. I remember thinking, "Its over, we're sunk... we wont win tonight" and I sat and listened with head shaking to talking heads on TV or on the radio speak of how great an opportunity on the line it was. An opportunity it certainly was, to go with the AWAY team who wound up winning by 7 or 8.

    Navy only minus 13.5 scares me, I would like our chances more at 14.5. Also Miami at 9.5 would be liked better at 10.5 by me. But USC at 13 is nice, at 14.5 or 15 we have a tougher uphill battle.

    Watch out for TRAPS everybody! :)

    I love the Navy 13.5 but then again I don't gamble. I was expecting that game to be around -20

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