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Lou Somogyi said...
Maybe it is because Notre Dame is an amazing 8-1 all-time against Oklahoma.
The series came about because in 1949 Oklahoma finished 11-0 and defeated LSU 35-0 in the Sugar Bowl, yet Notre Dame won the national title for the third time in four years. Oklahoma wanted to challenge the top dog and the first two games were outstanding. Long-timers will tell you that maybe next to the 1988 Miami game, the 27-21 victory vs. OU in 1952 was the most exciting ever in the Stadium. The next year, ND defeated Oklahoma in the 1953 opener and OU wouldn't lose again until four years later — 7-0 to ND.
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Lou Somogyi said...
Frawls42,
I'm not really comfortable answering that question until 1) they put on the pads and have full contact and 2) I see them on the field, when the lights are on, especially against an opponent that is considered equal (Michigan) or superior (USC). I don't really like to judge speed against Navy.
Keep in mind that Golden Tate had great football speed — including pads — and that Armando Allen ran the fastest 40 among 400 or so players at the U.S. Army Combine. It's how you maximize it within the confines of a football field, not on a track.
You mentioned a great name from the past, Vagas Ferguson. Did you know he ran something like 4.75 to 4.85 (similar to Tony Rice at the Combine)? What Vagas was sensational at was he had the moves to slink by you even if you were playing touch football in a phone booth. Conversely, people often complained about how slow Ryan Grant was (especially compared to Julius Jones), yet he ran a 4.43 at the Combine. He ran track with a bunch of other ND athletes from 2002-05 like Ambrose Wooden, Dwight Ellick, Tom Zbikowski, among others. I've always loved John Wooden's definition of speed: "Speed is the quick and proper execution of the fundamentals, and you don't have to have the faster athletes to have the better team speed."
You tread sacred football soil when you start mentioning Rocket Ismail, and I am averse to linking anyone with him when it comes to speed. To this day, one of my most memorable moments as a spectator was watching him run in a 100-yard tag drill at the Loftus Drill on one of the first days of practice in August 1988. I had to excuse myself to pick up my jaw (so did Lou Holtz), sort of like Wile E. Coyote did when the Roadrunner kicked it into the extra gear just as he was bearing down on him.
Cierre and Theo have fine speed, but George Atkinson III does possess the extra gear, as we saw on the kickoff returns vs. MSU and USC. The flat-out speed is concentrated more in the sophomore and freshman classes. I had a chance to talk with junior corner Bennett Jackson after Monday's practice, and he said the freshman trio at receiver (Neal, Brown and Ferguson) have added more tangible speed to the lineup (more on that in future features), although Ferguson has been listed as "only" a 4.62.
I'm usually on the cynical side when it comes to talking about speed because in the late 1990s the popular mantra was how Notre Dame didn't have any speed at the skill positions, yet people like Julius Jones, Javin Hunter, David Givens, Arnaz Battle and Tony Fisher all had NFL careers, while others such as Mike McNair, Tony Driver, etc. were state champions in the 100 and 200 — McNair's coming in the state of California. I didn't find many teams that could match that.
Experience has taught me to reserve judgment until I actually see it in live action against decent competition.
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