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Yes sir Lou, I have been in the "there but for the grace of God" camp myself a few times. Thanks again for your response.
Has the University ever released the playing time numbers from last year? I do not recall seeing your article on it.
They've had a real problem with that the past couple of years. We recommended last year that instead of minutes and seconds played — which is really kind of silly to gauge — they use number of snaps taken instead.
They started doing that in 2010. Unfortunately, this year they ran into some snafus, especially on offense. With the 2011 running backs coach (Tim Hinton) and offensive line coach (Ed Warinner) both at Ohio State now, they don't have the snap counts at those positions. Defensively, they also don't have the snap counts from the bowl game included.
Director of football media relations Brian Hardin did give me a few for a story I did in the print edition on top risers this spring. For example, Kona Schwenke had 44 snaps during the 2011 regular season, Bennett Jackson 65, Ishaq Williams 71 and Austin Collinsworth 78.
Beyond that, they have been reluctant to release any more data. I'll keep trying so that we can have it in the 2012 Yearbook we publish at the end of June, but I'm not holding my breath.
I also used to do it game by game in the edition (from the game the week before) which they would send me, but last year they didn't want to do that anymore. My understanding is they didn't want it available in print on how many snaps each player is taking per game because it aids their scouting report. I suppose it can be taken off game tape, too ... but that's the way it goes. We're at their mercy.
Who do you see as Notre dames most realistic targets. Obviously Jaylon Smith and Isaac Rochell as they have ND as their leaders, but who besides them?
When it comes to recruiting info, I defer everything to Jason Sapp, Steve Wilftgong and Will Biggers, an unrivaled triumvirate on all things ND recruiting. It would be like asking me on beauty tips if I had Cindy Crawford working right next to me.
Anyway, Jason told me that the two you mentioned are the one that Notre Dame has the best shot at landing.
If you wanted to add a third name, you could go with Marcus Ball. Notre Dame likes him as a linebacker and moved forward with an offer after he visited - giving them a chance to see him in person. The Irish immediately shot to the top of the list and he wanted to get his parents back to campus before making a move. If they feel the same way he did on his first visit, then he'd be prepared to pop. He's landing other big offers since then, including one from Wisconsin, where his brother plays (not Montee), so the process may go longer than it seemed initially.
Jason also added that with Notre Dame set to host some of its top linebacker prospects this month, they're probably fine with Ball waiting a bit becaue he was a later offer for them and they'd like to see where they stand with others getting to campus.
It seems unprecedented all the players using their 5th year of eligibility elsewhere, with Dayne Crist, Anthony McDonald and Mike Ragone all going to Kansas, Brandon Newman to Ball State and now Walker and Williams to UMass.
In another thread, you mentioned in recent years, where you were eligible at FBS schools if you received your degree, among the first ones that you [Lou] recalled taking this route were Nate Schiccatano (Temple), Steve Paskorz (West Virginia) and Matt Romine (Tulsa), Last year Emeka Nwankwo went to play at Western Illinois.
How did these players do going else where? Did they start? Get significant playing time? Anyone drafted? Anyone get picked up as undrafted free agents?
"No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another" -- Charles Dickens
No one from ND has been drafted after he went to another school for the fifth year, but Dayne Crist might have the best chance if he can stay healthy.
The best career season by an ND graduate as a 5th-year player elsewhere probably would be safety Garron Bible at Delaware in 2004. He had 73 tackles and two interceptions that year for the Blue Hens but was not drafted. Anthony Vernaglia played on a 4-8 Hofstra team in 2008 and had 29 tackles.
Emeka Nwankwo started all 11 games at defensive tackle for Western Illinois last year and finished with 27 tackles, including a sack. Otherwise, nothing really eye-popping that makes you say, "Wow, how did he get so overlooked here!"
I'm sure there is a frustration element of maybe not fulfilling some on-field dreams at Notre Dame, so the competitor in them wants to give it one more shot just for himself so he can forever hold his peace.
Thanks for response. I agree that Dayne would have best chance of anyone to continue play at the next level after playing elsewhere for his 5th year.
The one angle I was getting at you answered very nicely, whether anyone had eye-popping stats that ND would regret not giving them more opportunity. The short answer is no. Which is good for ND. Maybe not so good for these athletes.
I certainly don't blame these guys for trying to re-light the flame elsewhere. I wish them all the best in their endeavors. They are all still ND guys in my eyes. They didn't leave ND at the altar, or quit or anything. They were not offerred a 5th year and shown the door. They are trying to make the best of the hand they were dealt.
Thanks again, Lou.
In recent weeks, I've seen a lot of the 2013 recruits referring to themselves as "IrishMob13". Do you have any insight as to who got the ball rolling on this one?
For the record, I'm really digging the fact that there already seems to be a lot of comraderie between those who have chosen to commit.
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