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Column: Crist Deserves Another Shot

  • Guys/gals,

    We all have opinions. Wes is using the way he is associated with this site to express his-as a staff member. We all post opinions on this board, myself included, some good and some bad. A lot of those fan flames of all kinds. Wes is not a regular poster, so he writes articles expressing his views. Right or wrong is the judgement of those reading it but to question his motives and integrity is a lil over the top.

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  • Wes I usually agree with what you write, but in this case I dont. I pulled for Dayne and it pains me to think of what he is going through. However, Kelly is OBVIOUSLY more comfortable with Rees. That comfort means he is coaching within himself and not second guessing each call or decision. Dayne is by far the more gifted athlete, but Kelly's comfortability with Rees probably gives us a better shot at winning. It is a piss poor situation, but it is the world ND lives in at the present.

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  • Evidently Wes not only feels entitled to share his opinions, but he (or someone from BGI) also feels entitled to erase my comments pointing out the fact that the Crist-for-QB debate should have died after week-1 of the season.

    Freedom of speech? I expect that sort of thing from the posers over at Bleacher Report, but not here...

    This post was edited by AtlasND on 9/25/2011 at 7:32 PM

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  • @atlas said...

    I'll be honest, I'm shocked that you'd bother writing this article, Wes.

    Crist got benched for a reason. He doesn't belong in this style of offense.

    I, for one, don't need an explanation from Brian Kelly. I'm glad he hasn't reverted back to #10. I hope is ass stays on the sidelines because that's exactly where he belongs.

    Really? If Crist doesn't belongs in this style offense, why did Kelly make him the starter? Hasn't Kelly seen both Rees and Crist for the same amount of time? And what is it about this offense that doesn't suit Crist? What is it about this offense that better suits Rees? Crist has a stronger arm and runs with the ball far better than Rees. So as far as I see, Crist is a better fit regardless of the style of offense. Don't say that Rees is more accurate, nobody would believe that. For those that prefer Rees, thats fine. But acting like Tommy Rees is some clear cut choice over Dayne Crist is ridiculous.

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  • I remember reading what Randy Cross said about Joe Montana after the John Candy Super Bowl. When the team went into the huddle for the final drive the team seemed nervous almost scared. When Joe came into the huddle the players knew they were going to win. I wanted Dayne to be succesful in the worst way. But the fact remains the team doesn't play well when hes QB. You could see it last year. For whatever reason, TR gets the team winning. This year even though he played only 1 half, you saw the same thing. Going back to him would be a step in the wrong direction. TR may not be the answer, but for know he is the only chojce

    This post was edited by carminedesapio on 9/25/2011 at 7:40 PM

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  • Bobirish21 said...

    Really? If Crist doesn't belongs in this style offense, why did Kelly make him the starter? Hasn't Kelly seen both Rees and Crist for the same amount of time? And what is it about this offense that doesn't suit Crist? What is it about this offense that better suits Rees? Crist has a stronger arm and runs with the ball far better than Rees. So as far as I see, Crist is a better fit regardless of the style of offense. Don't say that Rees is more accurate, nobody would believe that. For those that prefer Rees, thats fine. But acting like Tommy Rees is some clear cut choice over Dayne Crist is ridiculous.

    Oh look, Dayne's little brother signed up for BGI now too! biggrin

    AtlasND

  • @atlas said...

    Evidently Wes not only feels entitled to share his opinions, but he (or someone from BGI) also feel entitled to erase my comments pointing out the fact that the Crist-for-QB debate should have died after week-1 of the season.

    Freedom of speech?

    Uh, wouldn't it also be freedom of speech for people to discuss whichever topics from whatever perspective and whenever they choose? Seems like suggesting the debate should have ended after week one runs counter to the freedom of speech thing.

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  • I agree that it would nice to see Dayne run a series here and there at least. nice read

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    This post was edited by AtlasND on 9/25/2011 at 8:09 PM

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  • @atlas said...

    How can I say that Crist, who was recruited by Charlie Weis to run a pro-style offense, doesn't belong in the spread? Just say that out loud and listen to how stupid it sounds.

    And I'm not "attacking the staff" - I'm simply addressing Wes directly, like I would any one of you who asks such a silly question.

    I believe Rees was recruited by Weis and one would assume it was to run a pro-style offense.

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  • @atlas said...

    How can I say that Crist, who was recruited by Charlie Weis to run a pro-style offense, doesn't belong in the spread? Just say that out loud and listen to how stupid it sounds.

    And I'm not "attacking the staff" - I'm simply addressing Wes directly, like I would any one of you who asks such a silly question.

    Once again, both Crist and Rees were recruited by Weis to run a pros style offense.

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  • As I have stated on other threads... Thank God ND as Purdue next. As long as the defense and special teams can play well, I am all for getting Crist a ton of playing time, just so long we can see a draw package and read option that will make ND very unpredictable!

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  • Great article, Burlage.

    Sleepyscrapiron

  • Why don't you just ask Brian Kelly? It's fine to have an opinion but aren't you in a position to ask him why? Is there a reason you won't ask him the direct question? Seems like that would be the fair, prudent, best way to get the facts that can be written about and discussed.

    sportsfansb

  • Good article. A good question that needs to be asked. Thanks, Wes.

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  • Wes Morgan said...

    No reason for me to have an opinion? You have an opinion. Why can't I have one?

    Why don't you just ask Brian Kelly? It's fine to have an opinion but aren't you in a position to ask him why? Is there a reason you or another staff member won't ask him the direct question? Seems like that would be the fair, prudent, best way to get the facts that can be written about and discussed.

    sportsfansb

  • sportsfansb said...

    Why don't you just ask Brian Kelly? It's fine to have an opinion but aren't you in a position to ask him why? Is there a reason you won't ask him the direct question? Seems like that would be the fair, prudent, best way to get the facts that can be written about and discussed.

    That's what I asked Wes earlier before he started erasing my comments.

    AtlasND

  • ScanlonIrish said...

    That is correct kking. Rees can recover better than Crist can. Everyone can see Kelly is biding his time for Golson to be the starter next year though.

    100% agree. Golson will clearly start next year with possibly hendrix in on goalline and short yardage, freshman tebow style. Rees and 5th year crist will breakdown red hat morse code sessions from the sidelines. Already see what happens when you get your real ballplayers in, lynch, tuitt and atkinson iii....give the kid a full red shirt and pull the trigger with a qb that can actually RUN the spread. tired of hoping my qb doesnt get hurt every play while top 25 qb's dominate teams like pitt and south florida.

    mangan25

  • HamOnWry22 said...

    The more apt phrase would have been "Brian Kelly has forgotten more about football than most of us will ever know." Of course, same was true of Charlie Weis. At this point in his tenure at Notre Dame, I thought Weis was brilliant. Maybe we'll see Brian Kelly fall on his face, too, as a few are predicting, but second-guessing coaches is a monumental waste of time because we don't know what they know.

    Kelly has run this offense for the better part of eighteen years and has a pretty good idea of what it takes to make it work. Initially, he thought Crist could get it done, but he saw something in a game situation which changed his mind, and conversely, he saw something with Rees on the field that evidently convinced him he was the best option for running his offense right now. I'd like to think we can do better than much of what I've seen from Rees, but to think I know better than Brian Kelly about what it takes to run his offense is hubris extraordinaire. I didn't question when he selected Crist, I didn't question it when he changed to Rees, and I don't question that he's sticking with Rees. The only thing quarterback controversies are good for is selling newsprint, or, in this case, web site memberships.

    This is what I meant to say

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  • @atlas said...

    I would also like to add that as spectators, we don't have the privilege of asking BK questions during his pre/post game interviews. But guess who does? Sportswriters. So instead of wasting time and talent writing an article for us, Wes, why don't you simply ask BK your question the next time the opportunity arises? thumbsup

    You mean this comment that is still there?!?! Maybe you should look, before you start getting on the staff about everything! Wes good article! Last time I checked he is aloud to write whatever he wants too! He works for this website not any of us! If you don't like it then start your own website and you can write about whatever you want! And if I can't thumbs down for writing this whatever!

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  • Nope, not that one. A different post.

    AtlasND

  • HamOnWry22 said...

    The more apt phrase would have been "Brian Kelly has forgotten more about football than most of us will ever know." Of course, same was true of Charlie Weis. At this point in his tenure at Notre Dame, I thought Weis was brilliant. Maybe we'll see Brian Kelly fall on his face, too, as a few are predicting, but second-guessing coaches is a monumental waste of time because we don't know what they know.

    Kelly has run this offense for the better part of eighteen years and has a pretty good idea of what it takes to make it work. Initially, he thought Crist could get it done, but he saw something in a game situation which changed his mind, and conversely, he saw something with Rees on the field that evidently convinced him he was the best option for running his offense right now. I'd like to think we can do better than much of what I've seen from Rees, but to think I know better than Brian Kelly about what it takes to run his offense is hubris extraordinaire. I didn't question when he selected Crist, I didn't question it when he changed to Rees, and I don't question that he's sticking with Rees. The only thing quarterback controversies are good for is selling newsprint, or, in this case, web site memberships.

    Amen!

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  • This post was edited by jtesi on 9/25/2011 at 10:42 PM

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