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in the game- I find myself feeling very comfortable and a knowing that he will make smart throws, accurate and on time... and SCORE! If this team can get 23 points a game with that D (although was dissappointed in our first down D) never the less- with that D 23 points a game with remaining schedule prob gets you undefeated season and shot at Bama- KEEP EG IN and stay with him too long - like a starter who has thrown 10 pitches too many and well OU and SC- put it on us I think...
REES= wins in big games...
This post was edited by Jason Sapp 18 months ago
I think we all feel the same way. It's pretty hard not to at this point!
What I feel when Tommy comes in is absolute nervousness. He just doesn't have the athleticism to be a big time qb. I see him come in and I think "please keep making those throws and don't revert to your old self." It is an extremely slow process to coach a player into making the right decisions in terms of throwing the ball. Though he seems to be developing well in that aspect, it is a rather quick process to coach a player into making the right decisions in terms of running the ball. Therefore, it's so much easier to tell Everett to just get out of bounds next time than it is to tell a qb how to avoid throwing that interception. Golson has done very well in terms of not making such bad decisions in the passing game that they result in turnovers like Tommy's last year.
Golson last four plays, according to Kelly, were some of his finest so far. He also went on to say that he didn't respond right after making mistakes in the Michigan game but certainly did in the Stanford game. From what I saw, he was getting on a role before getting knocked out.
Remember last year we were saying Rees can do quite well against the bad defenses but struggles greatly against a good one. I feel like this year it is the same for Everett except one thing: Everett makes some really big plays. Compare our plays of over 20 yards last year to this year. It's greatly improved and I believe that to be a direct result of more athleticism at the QB spot
All that being said, I can't over emphasize how important Tommy has been this year. I bet he's having a hell of a lot more fun doing what he does right now than he did last year
This post was edited by jmalloy06 18 months ago
I feel very comfortable. EG is the future and TR is a great backup/closer. BK has played this brilliantly. I think Terry H. used that word.
I feel uncomfortable because I remember his play from last year and all of his turnovers.
ok, tommy is looking at his last playing time this year I believe. he is good to come in and save us once in awhile but we are past Rees and think coach will be looking to split time next year with golson and Kiel.
I think Tommy has done a great job this year and the way he has responded I hope NFL teams (seriously) look at for a leader and player and one day a coach.
If only he had a strong phyical build kid would be going in the first round. But he is smart and I think we can all agree there is a lack of brains in the NFL and around college football.
in 5-7 years look for Rees to be an offense coord. or something to that effect in college and one day a head coach.
and to be honest I would love to have you back in South Bend as part of a coaching staff, kid is real ND stuff.
Class act much like Crist.
This post has been edited 5 times, most recently by CraigR 18 months ago
I feel very confident with rees in the game. His one big advantage over golson is his ability to make a pre-snap read. I do like golson but he makes me very nervous haha.
I can't believe this is still being discussed. He can't avoid sacks and run for any positive yards. Yes he knows the office very well and audibles. However don't not argue both ppasses (to theo and TJ) were good throws. One throw was a duck, other was a pass behind receiver. Great catches not throws.
The quality of the pass in those two instances isn't as important as choosing the right receiver to throw to given the defensive alignment. Sometimes the receiver has to make a play too. Also, I don't recall tommy being sacked this year.
TR has brought ND back a few times - last year vs MU(ND lost due to dbs breakdown) and vs Pitt in a very tight game not to mention the final drive vs USC 2 years ago(TR managed Hughes rushed). I'm not comfortable with his lack of mobility but his pre-snap work is pretty good overall. This season he's had good success so yea I'm feeling fine when BK sends him in. Like Sharpley coming in for Clausen(when he was injured) I like TR coming in for relief work. Rather see TR in there vs AH(not meaning to put AH down) I just see that TR has better on field management skills vs AH. Now let's focus on BYU - BEAT BYU - GO IRISH!!
uh, you don't? Did you actually watch the Stanford game? It wasn't even a blind side sack, he saw him coming, there was just nothing he could do about it with his set of God givens.
Our O Line has to be perfect when Tommy is in the game, he will never be able to even extend a play much less take off and get you a big 1st down. Even with EG's limited mental abilities at this point he can do what TR cannot against big time front 7's. Save our Line's ass every now and then.
With that, I think the combo has to be the way we go THIS year until EG matures into a seasoned starter. Tommy is doing just fine in the role BK has carved out for him. It needs to stay that way for us to have a prayer against OU and SC.
He was sacked on the 1st play of OT. Miracle he held onto the ball. It was Niklas' worst whiff of the night(which is sayin somethin), this time vs Murphy.
To answer the OP question: my description is "seamless"... I feel like I know when to expect Rees dating back to Purdue.
Jmalloy06 - Very aptly put. Rees has done a solid job and it's great having a very competent back-up... But he's simply that, a role player. Keep him in for 60 minutes on a regular basis and we're not where we are today.
I feel pretty comfortable with TR comes out, because usually it is in response to a situation EG or the team isn't handling well. For example, when we kept getting trapped deep in our own territory, I was texting friends about brining in TR--BEFORE EG's fumble loss and Stanford TD.
Remember that when TR comes in, it is both a change of pace for defense as well as a bit of adjustment of plays. Even when the plays are the same, TR can teach EG a good bit about recognizing a blitz and reading where a receiver (No 80, hint hint) will have a one-on-one. One could argue his passes weren't perfect but they were to the right guy at the right time. Those two high, hanging balls were beautiful, frankly. When EG hangs those, I'm just plain waiting for them to get picked off (thankfully Davaris was just in position for one of them late).
I feel nervous when EG is out there--the loose ball handling, the tendency to drift backwards out of the pocket, the late enough recognition of open receivers that the ball is usually late, but that doesn't mean I want TR to start.
EG will get better (please hold the ball!), but it is a nice accident of fate that we have such an option in TR to use when and how we have. We wouldn't be 6-0 had TR not been sent in when he had. We also wouldn't be 6-0 (likely) if TR had started and played all those downs (yes, EG can elude tacklers and create). Frankly, we're lucky to have both.
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Oops you're right. And again I will say I like golsons potential and that he is starting. In responding to the thread though I simply was stating that I do feel comfortable when rees is qbing. And at least tommy did go on to get the irish in the end zone for what proved to be the decisive score after getting sacked.
What I'm amazed at is the difference of opinion that still exists when Tommy Rees is discussed. I can't remember a more polarizing figure in an Irish uniform over the past decade. Sure, he threw some picks and lost [a lot] of fumbles last season. Did he, alone, cause our collective misery last season? Certainly not. And Lou's article over the summer about the Irish being "a few plays away" from a BCS game was spot-on. Was it Jonas' fumble on the opening drive of the season that started it all? Was it Dayne's poor play; which caused him to warm the bench ... again? Was it the utter collapse of the secondary in the second half of the Michigan game after Tommy threw the go-ahead TD with less than a minute to go? Was it Dayne fumbling near the USC goal line at home under the lights?
Look, I don't know Tommy personally. I would venture to guess that almost no one on this board knows him personally. But from what I can gather, this kid is about as mentally tough as they come. He never appears to get rattled, no matter the circumstances.
After the conclusion of the Stanford game, I was on the phone with my 89-year-old grandfather, who has been a fan since the late 1920's. And he and I agreed on the following point: when Tommy comes into the game now, it's a little nerve wracking at the beginning because of his checkered history at the QB position. But he was sacked, nay crushed, and he held on to the ball. During that fourth quarter and OT period, he was 4 for 4. In relief this year, he hasn't thrown an INT or fumbled the ball. In every instance this season when he has checked into the game ... we've won. That simple fact cannot be ignored. And when the camera zooms in on his face after a big play - good or bad - he is remarkably stoic. His facial expression is virtually devoid of any semblance of emotion, whatsoever. Tommy Rees is the picture of composure and focus when he's on the field. And that fact belies not only his age, but the road he has traveled to reach this level of maturity - before the very eyes of Irish Nation.
We all must remember, Tommy's first spring was with Coach Kelly. He knows this system inside and out. During both the Michigan and Stanford games it was Tommy who recognized single coverage on Tyler Eifert split wide. And in the Michigan game, the catch sealed the victory. Against Stanford, a pass interference call kept the drive alive. He knew exactly where Theo Riddick was going to be on the third down conversion. And yes, the pass was behind T.J. Jones, but that was the go-ahead touchdown. Tommy came in for the third time this year and played his part - masterfully.
I, for one, will remember Tommy Rees very fondly, if only for his actions this season. Setting aside everyone's personal opinions of Tommy Rees, when one looks at the first half of the 2102 season from an objective viewpoint, we're 6 & 0 because Tommy helped get us there. Not all of us are going to agree with that sentiment. But you know who does? His coaches and his teammates. And in the long run, that's all that matters.
By the way...let's not forget that Tommy Rees is BEST PALS with Martin, Watt, EIfert, Cave. Those guys would go through a wall for him(BK quote). This is relevant b/c I feel that Tommy is the GLUE between Everett and those guys. He could approach this much more selfishly and angle to get back out there, but instead he makes it easy for those guys to accept EG and block just as hard. Not to mention, EG looks a bit too quick for where Daniels is, not Eifert. Because of Eifert's patience and Rees' bridge that he provides, we are able to keep this train moving.
Again, count the seconds for Tommy Rees' standing ovation 14 months from now at the banquet. The meter is up to 18 IMO. And climbing.
THe stoic, expressionless part of your post shows me you are a man who knows of what he speaks. Well done.
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Like Hodges +1 from me. How do I feel? Look at his expression when he is inserted into a do or die situation. I feel confident, just like he does.
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I just get real quiet when he comes in and plays. I know what he is capable of doing in making nice throws and the right reads on defenses, but on the same note you also can't forget how bad he can play (last year). The clenching when he throws the ball has gone away and I have gained trust in the kid. This 2 headed qb duo we have is deadly. Tommy knows how to win, so when EG went out with his concussion I want worried..I was smiling bc Tommy has accepted his role and I knew Tommy would come in do his job and get us the win.
This post was edited by NDfan20 18 months ago
When TR comes in, I feel we can beat any team on our schedule.
When EG comes in, I feel we can beat any team on our schedule...that has a bad defense.
This post was edited by IFR 18 months ago
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Exactly great catches not great or even good passes. Tommy Rees is a MAC quarterback at best. Rees has a great mind but not a good arm.
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