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I putting the over-under at 4 years, as to whether or not Coach Brian Kelly will remain at ND.
Would you take the over or under?
Sadly, I'm taking the under. I think there is a ton of tension between him and the administration. He (CBK) has far too many options, and an ego to match, to put up with being slighted.
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I would not be shocked at all if it goes under, after the way it went down after the season we had i was in shock that he even thought about leaving. So i hope hes here a long time but i would not be surprised one bit if he leaves. But to answer your question ill take the over, just because i want him to stay.
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The safe bet is to take the under. Keeping a coach past 5 or 6 yrs hasn't been a strong suit for ND.
I'll take the over
I do not think Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame without winning the
national championship. He has an ego, a pride, a quiet determination
to bring the crystal ball home to South Bend. Now, once that goal is
achieved, he very well may leave.But, until ND finishes at the
pinnacle, he stays.
Secondly, there is absolutely no evidence of any "tension" between
Kelly and the administration. Remember---like it or not, Kelly is
Swarbrick's man and Swarbrick has put together a renumeration
package for Kelly and our assistants, including Diaco, which---
according to Lou Somogyi---will make every ND fan happy.
kking--how is (was) Brian Kelly "slighted" by the administration?
I have been following Notre Dame football since 1964---each
and every time Notre Dame has a successful coach, rumors
start to swirl that there is "tension" between the coach and
the "administration." It was the case with Ara, with Dan Devine,
with Lou Holtz, especially Lou Holtz. They usually are way
Over, fully agree with Hemy
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I was wondering the same thing. The things I have read, that the B&G staff put out, has shown positive things happening with the coaching staff. I don't know what these slights are either. kking, could you please clarify these 'situations'?
And I'll take the over as well.
This post was edited by DMo 10 months ago
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Where you think the tension between him and the administration is coming in? Contract extension talks? Obviously the NFL was something explored during the offseason, but it definitely seems that will end in a long extension and likely pay raises for assistants as well. I think many of the changes around the program (training table, alternate uniforms, more amenities for the Gug) have been made for Kelly, with other possibilities (stadium renovation/field turf?/Jumbotron?) on the way.
In addition would be interested in where you think BK would go. For college destinations I don't believe the SEC would be a fit (plus the elite jobs there have long-term fits), and the major Midwest destinations have stable situations with Hoke and Urban Meyer.
I'm not sure the NFL is a realistic destination either. I don't completely believe Kelly when he says it was a one time consideration to see his options, but I also wouldn't assume the interest will always be there. This offseason there was lots of momentum after an undefeated regular season - hopefully that success continues, but part of what elicited Charlie Weis' 10 year extension was rumors the Giants wanted him as a HC. That died pretty quickly as the wins stopped coming (and Coughlin won a Super Bowl and changed everything), but even with a couple of 9-3, 8-4 seasons I think the realistic chance of BK being the top candidate for an NFL job goes drastically down.
This post was edited by mbryan06 10 months ago
I'm taking the under... I'd really like to know CBK thoughts on EV, Golson, Perkins, Standifer, Etc.
Looking at CBK's track record at CMU & Cincy for 3 years. His interview with the Eagles and the fact that the only coaches to stay at longer than 7 years at ND were Knute, Leahy, Ara, and Lou.
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So you have been following ND Football since 64 that's great. So name a coach which has had this much drama in just barely 3 years coming off a 12-0 campaign and a NC appearance? While your're at it, how many of them interviewed for a coaching job in between a National Title game? No contract, base pay that puts him around 27th in the country.
So given all of that deductive reasoning doesn't indicate tension? That isn't what I'm basing my opinion on I have other sources, but they all are in line.
We can agree to disagree, but like so many ND fans, and the University itself their is an unhealthy fixation on the past. Many times its barely relative for the way things are today (not saying that is a good thing, but it's fact). Coaches don't have the patience, and they can go where they want when they want. We can bang our chest all we want and declare "We are ND" but remember each time we've done that in the last 2 decades top tier coaches have said "thanks but not thanks" I hope the administration doesn't miss out on the great coach we have now.
This post was edited by kking 10 months ago
My sources come mostly from the Admin side of ND, and some on the Football side. I've been posting for a long time and I seldom (almost never) mention any personal "sources" but this one bugs me for some reason.
Both sides of my sources indicates tension. From the outside looking in some issues appear obvious. How many coaches interview before a NC game? The pay thing was a big deal, and nobody will admit to it. The comment from my football side at ND said, "even Cincy made more of an effort to reward CBK for his season than ND" that did not go over lightly.
The other part of it comes from expectations upon employment by Brian Kelly. There is a thought process that some things are moving too slowly. Field turf, J-tron, logo all of that stuff is announced, but only in the exploratory capacity on the side of ND.
That is about the extent I want to go into but there really are issues. I think it just becomes so easy (I'm guilty of it) to assume that ND is enough as is. And for so many reasons that is is true, I loved ND as much at 3-9 as I did at 12-0. But its not the same, yet the administration changes very little. From a professional perspective it isn't enough anymore.
I have no sources, I sense no tension....my prediction is strictly off historical data and that tells me only a handful of coaches have made it past 6 yrs, 4 of them are widely considered Greats in all of college football. If Kelly throws down a NC within the next couple of years I'll change my tune a little but at this point in time history is on my side. It may have some to do with the University but it will definitely have a whole lot to do with alumni, boosters and fanbase.....a very fickle, unrealistic and impatient bunch.
I,too, hope the administration doesn't miss out on the great coach we
have now. From what I am hearing, I don't think they have or will.
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To be under wouldn't he have to leave immediately? Also teo4heisman is it just me or did Golson cheat? If BK is not happy he is out a year then I don't think he needs to be the coach of ND. As for EV, who cares this kid made his choice are you really that upset that he left? If so get over it because it is no big deal. Please tell me you are not referring to David Perkins, the kid who just got arrested for being Not a RKG. Anthony Standifer didn't take Spanish in high school so he couldn't go to ND. Why would BK be mad about it. This is one of the best Universities in the land not some Po-dunk school like Ole Miss. Even my Alma-mater Youngstown State required I take Spanish or some other foreign language which was a requirement by my high school for college prep. This kid will be fine in Mississippi. I am taking the over on BK being there and if I am wrong then so be it. But please for the love of Touchdown Jesus don't complain that we don't let 3 star corners attend when they didn't meet the academic requirement to get into the school.
This post was edited by itwillnotrain 10 months ago
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