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We could really be in trouble after Nix and Tuitt leave. In that season, we will have Day, J. Jones, Rochell, Springman, Hounshell, Hayes (FR), and any other 2014 kids we get as our defensive line rotation. There is a lot of uncertainty with that group...2014 is a BIG year for the defensive line, and getting Vanderdoes in this year's class would be absolutely huge. If we miss out on Vanderdoes and strike out in 2014, I will be extreemely worried
This post was edited by irishrule1012 18 months ago
It has been mentioned elsewhere but I think there could be some potential for Ishaq Williams to move into more of a DL position if needed with the abundance of talent we will have at OLB.
There is a lot of uncertainty with that group now as with most groups this far away, but I don't think its cause for concern or we will "really be in trouble". Day, Springmann, and Hounshell will each have at least two years of significant game experience and be ready to step up into starting roles, with a number of talented but less experienced players behind them. Our secondary was definitely in a similar position this year, and the uncertainty was answered with great improvement and strong seasons from Motta, Farley, Russell, and Jackson. Agree that Vanderdoes in the middle would be a huge get, mostly because the significance of having an elite NT in a 3-4.
We need some speed edge rushers. Or does that not fit our scheme.
The NY giants are the blueprint for an elite defense. I believe Tuck will agree.
I think Okwara grows enough to put his hand on the ground a good bit. Vanderdoes would be a huge get though.
Tuitt will stay thru 2014 but yes we need DT and NG recruits. Should be priority #1 for 2014 class
You'll see jaylon smith on his hand on the line a lot. He'll be prince shembo..just better and a lot faster.
I read in the soth bend tribune a good article saying the same thing about ishaq to the DE, so we can substitute in waves like alabama did. Send him to longo, bulk him up to 290lbs and send him in there!
i respectfully disagree...keep him at 260 and put him situational 3rd down d-lineman....on running downs keep him at LB...TIme will tell though
I don't think so NDfan20. Smith will be the drop backer, not the rush backer (prodominantly.)
I do believe Ishaq will end up at DE considering our LB class and what we return. While I understand the concern for the future of our DL, I'm not worried. The staff has done very well and will continue to identify that as a need and fill it. Jay Hayes was a great start for 2014 and I still think we end up with two more DL in the class of 2013.
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why use a 5star kid on 'situational' downs especially when shembo never comes off the field, were thin on the dline and we got a haul of linebackers coming in. ishaq should be a linemen, hes 6'6'
not saying hes thinking it but id rather try a kid at a spot he'll get more time at as opposed to letting him transfer, especially a player with ishaq's potential. were better suited to find a back up situational LB then we are to find a quality rotatatind DE. if the starters are tuitt and day, that leaves unproven matuska (prob RS) rochelle and chase hounshell who hasnt played. im not sure, i could be missing someone? but ishaq has a shot to see the field a lot at DE.
That's all he did in high school. Hes good at it. But he could do what you said
I'm sure DL will be our biggest priority in next years class.
Until he actually does something at OSU, why do people keep bringing him up? ND's DL class was stacked that year, and 2 other schools (OSU being one of them) passed on him.
Matuska and Rochell are solid but just ok from a numbers POV. If ND lands Vanderdoes than this it's stellar.
This post was edited by dc irish 18 months ago
What does five stars have anything to do with anything? I'm not disagreeing with him going to DE, I'm disagreeing with why would you add bulk to a kid whose best football quality is his speed, I think 260/270 is perfect for Ishaq. Put him at 300 lbs and his best "5 star" qualities are elemimated...and I don't know why someone would use situational athletic pass rushers maybe we should ask the New York Giants or New England Patriots or gasp..the Alabama Crimson Tide
who said 300lbs? i mean just turning what he has now into more muscle, hes a little lean, he can play with his hand on the ground and the reason we look at him as a "5 star kid" is because he might see himself that way and not enjoy "only being a situation pass rusher" when he seemed to have a brighter future, im thinking in terms of maximizing talent and hes a player we can get on the field and help sure up a position were thin at.
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