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In everyones opinion, do you think bama can stop ALL 3 running backs? Do you think they can stop Eifert? On the flip side..do you think we can stop their run game? I feel we can run on them. I think golson is going to tear it up. I go to the bama board and they reflect on the 1 game..the Pitt game..and they think we cant play with them. They must have forgot about A&M..and we have better play makers than A&M. So what is everyones thoughts? Lets hear it.
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Reality check.nd does not have better playmakers than the Aggies. I know we are all huge nd fans but have to base our comments on reality. Go Irish
How do they have better play makers?
A&M maybe has ONE better playmaker than ND: at QB. ND has far superior RBs, the WRs are probably a wash, and ND has far superior playmakers on defense.
Manziel is a great player, but in A&M's three biggest games, he single handedly lost two (Florida and LSU). Against Alabama he accounted for 253 yards passing and 92 yards rushing... ON 18 CARRIES!
If Texas Am had made it to the BCS National Championship game then maybe your opion would be proven ! But they had a good season and made it to a nice bowl game where they will play a team ND beat on the road! Go Irish!!
Mark my words. Oklahoma will monkey stomp the Aggies just like last year.
When you say fans are being unrealistic, you need to substantiate it with some real documentation. Manziel is a better runner than Golson, at least in terms of being able to break off the long one. At this point, however, I don't think too many people would give Manziel an edge as a thrower. Their running backs have only two 100+ yard games. Notre Dame's have eight. Their WR's have a statistical advantage. ND has Eifert, so no need to compare the position. So, it's pretty mixed. I don't want to take anything away from Manziel, because he's a huge talent, but his biggest edge over Golson was that he hit the ground running this year, while Everett eased his way into the offense. From the Oklahoma game on, he took an increasingly dominant role in the offense. Much of Manziel's highlight reel came at the expense of soft opposition, and one career-making game against the Tide. I think Everett is narrowing that gap. I don't think that's an unrealistic perspective.
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Are you serious...check the stats. They have the most exciting playmaker in college football for one, their receivers are very good esp. Swoopes and their RBs are fast. They play against tougher defenses and their points per game is over 10 points higher than ND. Can facts be interpreted anyway we want?
I truly believe Okie will handle the Aggies as well.
What were EG's best stats and who was it against? The Wake game? Notre Dame is the better team by virtue of its undefeated record but the first post said ND has better playmakers than A&M and I don't see it. The numbers prove he's wrong. Against SC ND gets into the red zone how many times and comes away with 22 points against a terrible run defense.
He said they had better playmakers...SC has better playmakers than ND. Your record is based on a whole range of factors.
Ok, ok...go irish. Even if they lose to Alabama I'm gonna still say they won. Facts be damned.
I agree with my buddy, Ham, that Golson is the inflection point of this game. Yes, 'Bama can stop our run game if they over play the run. Yes, they could frustrate our passing game if the drop 6. Golson's life took a quantum leap in the 4th quarter of that notorious Pitt game. Early in the season, if a team overplayed ND's offense to one aspect and neglected the other, Golson wasn't always sure what he was looking at. Now he knows. He will get many chances to lead the ND offense down the field, gifted by the ND defense, Alabama's offense will not control this game. Everett Golson will be the one to pull the strings. Golson will have them wishing Johnny Football was back.
I disagree with you Ham, look at the team offensive stats and look at the huge advantage in points per game scored. Ultimately, play makers make plays and score points. ND has the better team with the help of some luck (just like every team) and deserve their spot.
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Flanker, first of all, if you're going to use those stats, you need to refine them. A & M played only three teams ranked above #49 in defense. Six of ND's opponents were ranked in that range. ND played a couple of weak defensive teams, but at least they weren't South Carolina St. or Sam Houston. Even a ranked team like Louisiana Tech had a resume that looked more like a slate of basketball scores than football. Beyond that, the object of the game is not to put up numbers, it's to win. Kelly ran a conservative offense this year because he had a defense that could win games, and he could be patient in the development of Golson. A & M did not have a good defense. They were going to win by outscoring the opposition, so it was high octane from day one. This will skew statistics. Even within the constraints of the ND offense, I broke down the numbers above -- yes advantage Manziel and the WR's, but advantage to the Irish RB's and Eifert. Riddick, Wood and Eifert, and even Atkinson, are playmakers that any team would welcome, including A & M.
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Ham you are write about the conservative offensive game plan. I would also say that had a lot to do with the defense being as good as it was. Nd controlled so much of the clock that the defense really wasn't out there a lot. I still disagree with the premise that nd has better playmakers. We can agree to disagree.
I have tow concerns-
One our Red Zone Offense - can we convert TD
Two- I dont think we will ever face a line and or backs like we will see with almost a month to prepare and get healthy- I know everyone thinks our front 7 is the best- I have seen teams run off tackle on us- PItt- for one- so
with that said- go irish
I think we are going to have a very difficult time scoring on Alabama. A big play like in the Oklahoma game would really help our cause. However, I don't see see us consistenly moving the ball on them. With that being said we have to take advantage of our red zone opportunities and not settle for field goals.
On defense if Alabama is consitently getting 5 yards a carry, game over.
I just don't like our chances. But that is why they play the game.
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