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Speculation is saying yes and that they will target VCU's Shaka Smart. I would prefer Stevens, but not bad if true.
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This will be UCLA's 9th coach since John Wooden stepped down in March 1975. That's an average of one per 4.2 years, or basically using the full four years of eligibility. Howland had three straight Final Fours but wore out his welcome after a lot of his assistants took head coaching posts.
Mike Brey is only the fourth ND head coach since Wooden's exit.
Howland was officially fired Sunday night. UCLA did win the Pac-12 regular season this year.
Good example of the difference between what is considered a basketball school and what is not? Think Mike Brey would have been fired (given no scandals) had ND won the Big East this year?
Now, unlike Brey, Howland had a bad reputation for not being personable and there were a lot of internal issues in that program. Nevertheless, at a place like UCLA (sort of like ND football), three straight Final Fours is not enough equity to live on.
I'll take Howland, and send them Mr. Personality....
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Forget this year- won a championship didnt he? and a couple FF? I think
Went to three straight Final Fours from 2006-08, but did not win a national title. The 2006 team lost to Florida in the championship game.
The last five seasons the program did take a downturn. I think UCLA viewed Howland the way Miami football did Larry Coker. Going to two straight title games in 2001-02 (winning it in 2001) was fine ... but the program gradually kept getting worse each year after that, including a six-loss season, I think.
When you're in the spotlight like UCLA basketball or Miami football, consistent excellence is a mandate.
Would you not compare Brey to Karl Dorel(sp?)?
I wouldn't compare him to Karl Dorrell. He coached only 5 seasons and was 6-7, 6-6, 10-2, 7-6 and 6-6 for a 35-27 overall record. Brey has had much better regular season success in a better league and is still considered an overachiever whereas UCLA football has been deemed as underachieving.
One comparison that might be valid is post-season success. Dorrell was 1-4 in bowl games, while Brey is 6-9 in the BCAA Tournament, including just 2-6 in the last 10 years.
Good points Lou!
After I wrote that, I instantly thought that a better comparison is probably Bob Toledo, someone that actually had some success, both regular season and in post season. Following of course Terry Donahue who I would compare to Digger Phelps. I guess my point is, that even in secondary sports, that there is always the expectation of being "better". Whether that is realistic or fair is a differnet question I guess.
Thanks for the feedback!
While UCLA has taken a few steps back, I feel this was an injustice. He finally had a team assembled that wanted to be there and I believe all except Shabazz would've been back. He won the PAC 12 despite everything this year and gets fired? I don't think so. I would like for them to take a run at Shaka or Stevens, but why would they go there? Legacy? They are creating their own. Not only that, but in their current situations a sweet 16 is a good one (so far). At UCLA, evidently 3 final four's in 7 years isn't enough. No reason to step into the pressure cooker when people already know Butler. Only benefit of the move is recruiting, but they do just fine where they are with what they have.
Those are more legitimate comparisons, especially Donahue/Phelps. I've been more apt to compare ND basketball to Michigan State or Ole Miss football, but UCLA is also a good one for the Pac 12.
Secondary sports? Huh?
Take a look, what?---- 120 play real football and how many schools play b-ball?
Not secondary to them. Too funny
If I'm Shaka Smart, I stay put. Same for Stevens.
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