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In a separate home-page story we noted how running back traditionally has been the most likely position where a freshman can play. It would seem to be especially the case this year at ND with the graduation of top 2 backs Theo Riddick and Cierre Wood, combined for 1,659 yards rushing last season.
The most a freshman back ever rushed for in a season at ND was 786 by Darius Walker in 2004, followed by Jerome Heavens' 756 in 1975 in just 11 games. In the five years from 2008-12, though, the most a freshman back at ND has rushed for is Riddick with 160 in 2009.
If I set the over/under at 500 yards in 2013 for the Bryant/Folston tandem (or even just one), would you take the over or the under? And what kind of rushing yardage totals are you expecting from them, GAIII, Amir Carlisle, Cam McDaniel or Will Mahone?
Note that the only Notre Dame running backs to run for more than 500 yards in a season since freshman eligibility began in 1972 are Walker, Heavens, all-time rushing leader Autry Denson (officially 695, but he also had 67 in the bowl, which back then wasn't included), No. 2 all-time rusher Allen Pinkett (532) and Randy Kinder in 1993 (537).
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I'd also take the under. Agree that Atkinson and Carlisle and being underrated by many fans, my guess (assuming everyone stays healthy, which is a huge if) would be we see something like:
McDaniel - 150 (but with more recieving yards than Atkinson or Bryant)
Folston - redshirt
This post was edited by mbryan06 11 months ago
Over...Bryant may eclipse 500yds on his own.
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While I'd love to see Bryant as the bellcow, I think GA3, Carlisle, and Mahone will be given every opportunity to take the lead and it will hinder the freshmen production unless the three of them fall flat on their faces. Under 500 rushing, over 500 all-purpose yard.
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i vote "over" for the pair rushing for 500 yards with most of that from bryant. this is mostly because i think carlisle will be a slot guy when he returns from his injury.
I think Bryant alone will be over 500 yards. I think Amir plays more in the slot when fully healthy as it sounds like he was in the spring pre-injury and that Folston works more out of the slot than the backfield this season with the trio of Bryant, GAIII and Cam doing the bulk of the groundwork. I like Amir a lot I just think he gets utilized more out of the slot. We have a lot of weapons. I just think Bryant is really that complete back.
Under. The depth is 4 deep in front of them, 3 deep if Carlisle ends up in the slot. I think they'll both get a look in training camp but they'll really have to shine to move up the depth chart.
Ill go over.
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Under. Ga3 starts at RB, Amir gets as many touches as BK can scheme. Cam and mahone know the playbook, can catch, and I'm guessing block better than the two frosh. While Bryant may play ( purely based on thr board's enthusiasm ) I see Folston as an athlete that may play another position a la Russell or a red shirt. Don't care if I'm wrong or right as long as we win!
over Bryant will have 700 himself
Bryant will lead the team with 600+ in a somewhat "running back by committee" approach for the first part of the season.
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Over. I think Bryant will be squarely in the mix by 2nd half of Michigan game. GA3 will be supplanted. McDaniel may even be RB2 by midseason. Not hating on Atkinson, but he is Home Run or no gain.
Folston will get looks at RB and Slot behind Carlisle and Prosise.
Expecting highlight reel season from Amir!
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ciggles 11 months ago
I am going with over but not because of a huge breakout season from either. I think with the loss of Eifert, we run a bit more next year. We had roughly 1, 700 yds from the top 2 last year and I think we will get at least that from GA3 and Carlisle combined. I think Bryant gets the 3rd most reps and rushes for 350. Folson gets a combined rush/receiving yds for 150 (a couple of breakaways).
Thank you for the participation, but receiving or return yards not included. It's strictly rushing yards. Thus, I would say you have it at "under."
Under. ND has some pretty good backs ahead of Folston and Bryant. More importantly they have some players with college experience. So far all we know about Bryant and Folston is that they were really good against HS comp. One of them could come out and make an immediate impact, but history shows it is not likely.
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Counting the vote by mhealy34 for "over" on the main page story I did this weekend in which I first posed the over-under question, we have the over-under at 9-8 in favor of under.
Anyone care to tie it up and further continue the debate?
This post was edited by Lou Somogyi 11 months ago
i'll tie it up and take the over. I think Bryant will be one of the top 2 RB's (with Atkinson) within a couple of games of the start of the season. If that is indeed the case, he will run for more than 500 yards.
I'm going over. I really just don't see Atkinson as the guy to carry the weight. Bryant sooner than later will be on the field along with Carlisle IMO. Bryant is the type of RB you see in the SEC that gets carries from day one.
So IMO Bryant is unlike anything ND has seen as a freshman in a very long time.
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