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  • This was desperation. An entire game, an entire week, an entire program. The whole thing turned into one big Hail Mary from Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly on Saturday. It is just the middle of his second season, and he’s already resorting to gimmicks?

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    That’s the pressure at Notre Dame, and of a team that simply is not turning around as expected.

    New, bright shiny helmets for Saturday’s game with extra gold. Extra gold! Ozzy Osbourne music blaring throughout the stadium all . . . night . . . long. Little flags for the fans to wave. A night game at Notre Dame for the first time since 1990. And plenty more.

    And had he treated it like any other game, he would've been crucified for not "getting it." The hypocricy at Notre Dame is sickening. Before the game, countless threads were dedicated to the "awesomeness" of the new helmets, the excited anticipation over the rumors of loud music, the 80,000 towels that were described as a plethora of "cool" adjectives, and how we better show all those recruits a good time. Good job, Kelly. You get it. You understand. Oh, how losing makes people forget their own stupidty. Those cool helmets, apparently the brain child of our super coach, who understands tradition? Pff. He should worry about the game, not those stupid helmets. Those towels we all waved and enjoyed in 2006 when we destroyed Penn State? They're now silly "little flags."

    It was desperation followed by ridicule and humiliation for Notre Dame, which lost to USC anyway, 31-17.
    It wasn't desperation. It was what we all asked for. What we all got. And what we all turned our back on when it didn't make any damn bit of difference on the football field."

    “Our whole thing this week was not about the hype,” USC coach Lane Kiffin said. “It was about the prep. It was about preparing really well, finishing games off and not letting the other stuff get involved.

    What type of hype was USC going to give for an away game? Bring their own PA system and play music? Mail towels out to any fan who said that they were going to the game? People bitch and moan about how ND isn't keeping up with the rest of the college football world. They tried. Now idiots with a keyboard pounce on the easiest piece of their life - ridiculing something.

    “You get the sense that this was their Super Bowl here ... So it’s even more pleasing.”

    If you are missing it, that was Kiffin making fun of Kelly, who was trying to create — and win — a big game based on his own personal genius.

    It's expected. He's Lane Kiffen. His past speakes for itself and of him as a man. Joining him speaks for you.

    Kiffin made some remark about the loud music playing every time the Trojans came to the line, which “really helped us a lot.”

    Know this: Every coach thinks he is magic. The best coaches, such as Kelly, think they have just a little something on everyone else.

    Kelly found out Saturday that he doesn’t. Or maybe he didn’t find that out. But for sure, everyone else did.

    No, everyone didn't. YOU did. You took one game on one night and think it is gospel. What about last year? Kiffen lost. Kelly won. Did we all find out Kiffen doesn't have anything on Kelly? Or did Kelly just win one game on one night? You're an idiot. That'll be a theme throughout this piece.

    This isn’t just about one game. It’s a about an entire program. It’s about the most historic team in college football — and the most entitled fans, alumni and power brokers.

    So the desperation wasn’t limited to the pregame or to the game itself. The postgame was just as bad. Notre Dame even scheduled to have a week off before playing USC. All part of Kelly’s bag of magic.

    Kelly doesn't make the schedule. And you're now a bigger idiot.

    Did he have any thoughts on why then, after all that, the Irish still got off to such an embarrassingly bad start — falling behind 17-0?

    Don't know. Did Kiffen feel embarrassed when his team came one yard from allowing a team to come back 17 points, or does that not fit in because this piece is designed soley for the intent of the easy target - the coach on the losing end? Oh - you're an idiot.

    “You know, I generally — I’m falling on the sword nine out of 10 times,” Kelly said. “But I know what I’m doing on a bye week. I’ve had great success. I know what it looks like.”

    Uh oh.

    “I’m certainly not going to go back and second-guess the way I’ve prepared over 21 years in a bye week. Sometimes there’s some accountability from everybody, coaches and players alike ... They didn’t play as well as they needed to play.”

    It is not a good idea for a coach to blame his players, not publicly. It’s not what the players are looking to their leader for. A coach, publicly, is supposed to have his team’s back.

    As Kelly said, 9 times out of 10, he takes it for the team. After watching Notre Dame players piss away another game, I'd get tired of making excuses for them. They're young men, not four year olds. And you're an idiot.

    Kelly seems to believe he has placed his magic in them, and if they aren’t winning, it must be their fault.

    Look, it’s not that players aren’t responsible. At the end of the third quarter, the Irish had driven 90 yards to the USC 1. A touchdown would have tied the score at 17.

    Instead of tying it, though, quarterback Dayne Crist dropped the snap on third-and-goal and accidentally shoveled it backward through his legs all the way back to the 20-yard line, where USC’s Jawanza Starling picked it up and ran the final 80 yards for a touchdown.

    It was just so reminiscent of a play in Notre Dame’s loss earlier this year to South Florida. So Crist dropped the snap, not Kelly. But I’m sorry: This game is on Kelly. Crist’s fumble was less important than that 17-0 start.

    You're stupid. Their 17 staright points? Meaningful and embarrasing. What would've been our own 17 straight points? Less important. So what. I hope you stop writing.

    “To turn the ball over in the ridiculous fashion that we have, it just makes me crazy,” Kelly said. “I just don’t understand how something so easy can come out the way it does.”

    I google'd it. He's right. As it turns out, taking a snap from a center should be considered easy for someone who has played organized football for most of their lives.

    Kelly told the team that this wasn’t going to be a fun week for them in practice.

    This is just starting to look all wrong, sound all wrong. It’s so familiar. I sat in that same postgame interview room and heard Charlie Weis say almost all of those same words a few years ago when the Notre Dame program wasn’t turning under his magic, either.

    What did Kiffen say after we beat him last year? Hmm? Did he say, "Nothing will change around here - we need to lose more often." You're an idiot.

    “My greatest attribute professionally is as a teacher,” Weis said that day, Nov. 9, 2007. “I’ve always been able to do a good job of getting my message across. . . . You would like to think that there would be a direct correlation between the classroom and the practice field to the game.”

    When, as a writer, you've lost your point and realize you're an idiot, just throw out another coach. Make sure that coach failed (compliments of hindsight) and make comparisons that are more stupid than you.

    Kelly sounded the same Saturday, a teacher blaming a classroom of students for not getting the message.

    Maybe there aren’t any magic answers in football. Maybe the incredible history at Notre Dame is just too much weight. With all the legends and ghosts, Notre Dame Stadium is turning into a haunted house.

    What answers are you looking for? Notre Dame lost a football game. Nothing spooky happened. I get that it's close to halloween and you're an idiot, but this sentence doesn't even belong in this article. The history at Notre Dame is too much weight because we lost a game to a talented USC team? You're an idiot.

    Notre Dame (4-3) has lost three games this year, and it should have won all of them. South Florida, Michigan and now USC.

    Idiot. You just contradicted yourself. First, we were enbarrased and the weight is too much and Kelly is a stupid magician we should be 7-0. You're an idiot.

    Its only impressive win was over Michigan State. Now, the schedule gets easier until the season-ender against Stanford and Andrew Luck.

    But if the Irish can’t win after having an extra week to prepare against their rival, which is on probation and playing in South Bend, well, imagine what Luck is going to do to them in California.

    Same thing Luck has done to every team he plays against? What the hell do you think he's going to do to USC?

    No, this was the all-in game for Notre Dame. The Irish’s defensive front was supposed to bully USC. Instead, from the start, USC ran right over Notre Dame.

    “We had some guys that didn’t play with poise that needed to play with poise,” Kelly said. “Championship football teams play with competitive grace, which means that when the stakes are high and the stage is great, they raise their game. Today, in that same situation, some of our players didn’t raise their level of play.”

    Darn students. They just don’t know how to learn.

    Don't you mean, "Poor players - they're supposed to be coddled."? There was absolutely nothing wrong with any part of Kelly's quote above. Nothing. It was the truth. Sort of like if I said, "You're an idiot."

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