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I totally agree with you and Risk that the 1989 ND football team was better
than our 1988 edition---I,too, remember that gauntlet and was simply amazed
at our week in and week out performance. I also remember my disbelief(and
fury) when Bill Walsh proclaimed his ignorance when he stated towards the end
of the game with No. 1 Colorado that "after all, they lost at Miami and aren't
But, looking back, which season did you enjoy more---1988 when ND never
lost and clinched a national championship on a magical Janaury 1, 1989
or 1989 when we all had to stomach the 27-10 beatdown in Miami which
included that very famous inability to stop Miami when they had 43 yards to
go for a first down. That was embarassing.
All I am saying is that if you are comparing "great" teams, then our 2012
version doesn't really stack up as Risk and you have pointed out so well.
But, if you are asking whether a "season" was memorable, was in Tom
Pagna's words, "magical", then 2012 stands very tall indeed.
Well said, Hemy. If the composite score for greatness includes a "didn't see this one coming," factor, then 2012 has to fit into that category.
I may not be pretty, but I'm fast.....
POTW 1/31/11 - 2/6/11
Notre Dame had some of their 'Great' seasons and National Championships, in years when they didn't go to a Bowl Game (by choice). 2012 was the first undefeated regular season in 24 years and I find it hard to not categorize that as a 'Great' season. We are dealing with a two tiered standard here in a system that already denies a perfect measure. History always adds perspective and we may change our answer if we go 13 - 0 in the near future but I think the comment 'Great Season but not a Great Team' is best status for now.
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