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No names have been released at this point, but three members of the Navy football team will face charges of an alleged rape that occurred in April 2012, according to this story from the Washington Post.
Naval Academy superintendent greenlights a preliminary hearing.
Interesting. I was of the impression that only Notre Dame football players, coaches and administration engaged in and covered up sexual assaults on and around their campus. At least that's what I've been led to believe by every single sexual-assaults-in-sports commentary I've ready since the tragic suicide of Lizzy Seeberg.
The Chicago Tribune has long been at the forefront of bashing Notre Dame of its record of sexual assault prosecutions, but at least they've been among the few who have touched on what a troubling trend this is across colleges in general:
Three of the six schools surveyed by the Tribune had zero convictions from their 63 reported cases. For instance, the University of Notre Dame has had 34 reported sex crimes during the last six school years with four arrests and no convictions, and Northwestern University had 21 reported cases with no arrests or convictions at its main campus in Evanston.
Indiana University has seen only one conviction from its 69 allegations of sexual attacks reported to police during that time period. On Thursday, a Monroe County judge accepted Hai Yu's guilty plea to sexual battery and criminal confinement, making him the only one convicted of a student-on-student sex crime in the Tribune survey.
Hopefully this scandal at the Naval Academy will further expose this issue as widespread, and not exclusive to Notre Dame. When it's pigeonholed as a Notre Dame issue, clearly there is a failure to educate everyone else who obviously needs educating.
"The woman’s attorney, Susan Burke, said the woman got drunk, passed out and woke up remembering little from the party. “She learned from friends and social media that three football players were claiming to have had sexual intercourse with her while she was incapacitated,” Burke said in a statement issued last month."
I hope there was more evidence found than this. Otherwise this sounds like another flimsy case. I'm not saying she's lying at all but let's just hope there was further [compelling] evidence before the lives of these men are forever ruined. Due process.
Has anyone sent this story to that idiot Brian Hamilton?
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on a day when the Brian Banks story is released - he spend 5 years in jail.
A woman who falsely accused Atlanta Falcons rookie linebacker Brian Banks of rape has been ordered to pay The Long Beach Unified School District $2.6 million.
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Well; not the best case: hearing of your behavior through the social media.
Thank goodness you have the posters of 247 to support the reckless behavior. and that there were friends to stand by, witness it, and then post it on the internet so to take 'action' to protect one's good name. Well done.
What was interesting was the down vote; when that is a real and true victim. Is that indicative of the mindset here?
The simplistic thought to just blame the men.... Wow!
I stand by every word regards the responsibility/accountability. To the 'half way house of rapists' poster, I will try to dumb things down for you in the future; but if you are typical of the thinking here, don't fret my stay will be a short one. I'll just read and not participate in the excusive nature of the posting. Have at it; but don't expect a pissing contest.
Rape is indeed rape; but not all accusers have been raped.
Just as we don't know that the accused are guilty we also don't know the facts behind what you've judged to be "reckless" behavior, or that that the accuser "willingly and knowingly place yourself in a situation where harm or malice is a clear and likely possibility." You're arguing that others shouldn't jump to conclusions while assuming that this woman somehow placed herself in this situation where she knew this would be a possibility, which is beyond insane.
No one is assuming guilt, but your insinuations that the woman is somehow responsible for the crime (if it indeed occurred) are just incredibly wrong on every moral level.
as her attorney describes it it sure sounds reckless.
Here is something:
You and your Girl/Boyfriend are in a relationship; you have sex every night for 20 nights and then one night you go out for drinks and you both get drunk but still go home to have sex.
Both awake the next morning and neither wanted to consciously have sex that night and neither was in a state to consent.
Both or 1 might claim to have been raped. An impossible situation; but in theory it is possible; the events are probably somewhat common aside from the 'rape theory' part.
When everyone is as inebriated as in the case described and no one witnessed it and the accuser seems to have dropped the charges in the past and there is a growing political pressure to 'go get'em'; this looks like a wild west, 'string'em up' scenario more so than a quest for justice.
BUT, if the guys were sober and see was in fact out cold (she says that now): no brainer.
I don't take 3 lives on what is known so far. If anything something should be learned from the Duke case about 'blind faith' belief in an accuser.
I'm not taking three lives, either. The Naval Academy does it right - no one's name is listed. Who's life is ruined so far by any speculation? Nobody. I don't even know who we're talking about other than three men.
But what is refreshing to know is that those three men who are accused of a rather heinous act will have to at least provide accounts of what happened under oath. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that under the circumstances.
I'm far more concerned about the people who put themselves in a position to be accused of rape than those who "put themselves in the precarious position of being raped" (in quotes because I think such a position is wholly outlandish, and I prefer to not be associated with it).
you don't necessarily put yourself in a position to be raped but you definitely lose control of you faculties if you are a 'minor' who is inebriated. I doubt that the Lady had no idea of the effects of alcohol; and if she was out of her faculties and the guys were out of theirs that is everyone in a position for disaster.
1 of the 3 men was denied the right to graduate; based upon the 'hear-say' so far. No day in court or hearing; if he is ultimately exonerated who gives that day back to him?
The link you down voted above: a truly bizarre act by you; who gives those 5 years back? NO scholarship will be offered and no years can be paid back.
Again this whole story on the heels of the Obama visit is suspicious; she first said no to charges and now in the political circus, chains are rattled and ghosts resurrected?
The whole matter is on circumstantial hear-say; as described so far.
A second crime does not remedy the initial crime if one existed.
Rape is serious; rape accusations are equally serious.
Sometimes, bitches be trippin.
My thoughts in the order I had them having read only the barest details of the case:
Is it wise to have co-ed military academies?
Acadamies train people to lead others into battle, i.e. to kill. Organized killing = War. War inevitably involves rape (see the Russian army in Germany, 1945). Women at academies are in harm's way as per rape, an integral element of war-like behavior.
Then, reaching back to the McCain side of my brain, a side I didn't know I had, I understood -- though not to the point of agreeing -- why some don't want either females or gays in the military.
If it's just straight males, there shouldn't, in theory, be any sex and, hence, no rape, the next most warlike pursuit to killing.
But, in fact and ironically, rape in the military is something you can now do to one of your comrades more easily than to an enemy civilian. It doesn't even take a battle, just a party.
Obviously, I wasn't thinking about ND or other colleges as I saw this totally in terms of the USNA context. But, given what's going on the military on the whole these days, rape at Annapolis should come as no surprise.
These young women need to be protected.
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