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Provided, of course, Notre Dame wins these last two games.
Part of me says 1988 because that team lost its entire offensive and defensive fronts, Heisman winner Tim Brown, Tony Rice was maligned as a non-passer, and you had to beat four teams that finished in the top 10 (only three other teams in history had done that), etc.
But you look at 2012, it was 18 years (1994-2011) of walking in the wilderness, a starting QB who had never played, beating Michigan, Oklahoma, USC and Alabama all in the same year, etc.
OK. FWIW and what anybody cares, not even close. 1988 by universes, forget miles. UM sucks this year. USC is the college football team version of the show Dynasty in its death throes this year. the march to victory in '88 was far tougher than this year's path taken by a hugely talented group of kids and one awesome coach (BK), but just the same, '88 wins easily in my book.
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Really hard to say. Both years are (have been) great. All I really want is to be able to revisit this question on Jan. 8. Go Irish!!
We also lost Floyd from last year who was, statistically speaking, the best WR ever to play at ND. We also lost Lynch, and while many of us would say "addition by subtraction," he's a projected first round pick next year and was arguabily our best D Lineman last year.
I don't know much about the '88 team, and if Rice had previous experience, but Golson was completely unproven and trying to learn as he went. We had to play dueling quarterbacks for a few games and factor in some of those suspensions to start the season.
When I look back at all the reasons we've had to be unsuccesful this season, I would say the 2012 season is more miraculous. But then again, if we lose on Saturday or in January it won't be much of a debate anymore.
apologies - one more note from the leprechaun: please name even one game (yes, even the OSU game) this year that comes remotely close to the win vs. the convicts in '88? I LOVE LOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holtz, that is..... no disrespect to LS.
Obviously, it all depends on how this season ends for the Irish. If they win their next two, I'd honestly have to say 2012. Granted, this may just be the mists of time obscuring my view of '88, but I do remember that team starting the year in the Top 15, so there was at least some sense, in spite of the losses from the prior year, that ND was on the upswing. This year, there was nowhere near that level of preseason expectation by pollsters or fans and so the success they've achieved has been far more surprising.
2012 had many question marks as did 1988. I would call it a tie when we beat USC and 2012 when we be Bama!!!
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In 1988, we had waited 11 years. It's been twenty years of crap since then. 2012 gets my vote.
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I would only add to the 2012, the complete inexperience of the cornerbacks, both of whom had been recruited primarily for offense. Between the two, it's too close to call. Both of them shaped up as, roughly, 8-4 seasons. As for Lep's point about nothing comparing to the win over Miami in '88, emotionally, that's true, but a win over Alabama, if that game comes to pass, with ND looking like 10-point dogs, will be every bit as remarkable.
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In 1988 Notre Dame was ranked 13 in the pre season AP poll and also received 1 first place vote.
In 2012 Notre Dame was not ranked in the pre season AP top 25.
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