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As I watched the Spring Game for the second time, while thinking about Brian Kelly's comments regarding Golson having issues getting the right plays in place, I found myself asking this question: If it is so hard for Golson to understand the play call, why not change how we do it? Why not make it easier for him, sort of the way Oregon does it.
What if we did this, or some variation of it: Have him run a play, and when the play is over, hurry everyone up to the line of scrimmage again, then hold up signs that dictate the formation we desire, and then another sign for the play to run. If the defense shifts, hold another sign up to either audible or make slight change. This way, you take the decision making out of his hands but are able to get things in quickly without a bunch of hand signals which take linear time in order to decipher. If play calling/checks/audibles is the major reason you can't play the most talented QB we have at this time, then find a way to coach around that obstacle. I'm not sure if this system I proposed would work, but I think something could be devised and taught over the next 3 months in order to get over this hurdle.
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IW... I thought that you were the one that was saying that Kelly had to run the hurry up all year long. Playing a QB who doesn't get the hand signals isn't the best idea if you want to run the hurry up.
There is going to be some give and take this year... we are going to sacrifice one thing to optimize something else. There is no two ways around it. We will not be able to play Golson and the hurry up/full playbook. Rees will have the full playbook, but will make mistakes and not be able to stretch the field. Hendrix will be able to stretch the field and challenge the defense, but he will still make mistakes and won't excel in any one given area. Pick your poison.
By the way, I don't disagree about Golson. Find a way to get him in, but if we spoon feed him too much, it will hurt the team as a whole and the psyche of the other QBs who might need to play.
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IW--your comments would have been a great addition to Irish Cedar's
"Helping Out Golson" thread. And, you have presented a thought which
I think is worthy of some consideration. For the life of me, I can not
figure out why there isn't some way to deal with this----and, I wonder
whether we are the only one of 108 football teams with this problem?
Good point, Tommy. I do want the hurry up offense. But, as with Rees in the beginning, I understand if you can't run it due to an inexperienced QB at the helm. Therefore, I am fine if we back off of it in order to play a more talented QB. What i am not cool with is playing a lesser quality QB who is supposed to be the smartest of the bunch, yet still be unable to run the hurry up. THAT is unacceptable. Hope that clears up my stance on that.
I have been quiet on the qb discussion through spring camp, even after having attended 2 practices at the coaches clinic. But following the spring game I can't be quiet anymore.
I remember the first time I saw Golson's highlights following his junior year. I can't recall being so impressed by a junior's highlights. "Only if" I thought because I never saw a kid that dynamic coming to ND. Is was just too lucky for us to happen. He committed to unc shortly thereafter of course. But when he came to nd a year later I remember thinking, "we have our qb for 4 years."
The team needs to build around Golson. The receivers need to play until the whistle because he will keep plays alive. The blockers need to keep their feet moving. The rbs need to peel off their blocks and become receivers long after the play "should" be over. All of this is as much about creating an offensive culture as a scheme.
The defense meanwhile needs to be stable and ready for everything. Because Golson will create some wild plays as he will keep teams in games that should not be.
Kelly said spring game stats don't matter but Golson scored more often than anyone else. That matters.
Golson will create a recruiting buzz and will get the fans off Kelly's back for a while. If kelly wants him to play within a system, then he needs to give Golson reps, lots of reps. Make the kid study - that is the easiest thing to prep.
Golson will drive defenses nuts but nd will lose games they should not have because he will drive us fans and kelly nuts too. But in time, maybe less so.
I also think if Golson does not emerge the starter this year, he will quit ND. I know I would. This should be an easy decision for kelly. He said himself he wants Golson to emerge. He needs to clear the docket and dedicate everything to make sure he does. The kid is a winner. But then again so is Rees - he just lacks the talent.
BK must have no idea how to work with a QB! I trust he can figure out how to get a play in without showing huge posters diagramming the plays
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My suggestion on the Golson not getting the hand-signal thing is pretty simple. Assuming he can review film on his own over the summer, make a tape of nothing but hand-signals (from real games last year)... I would think that is something the film staff would have access to. Heres the signal... 5 count... heres the offensive set... boom. If he reviews it enough on his own, it should become second nature.
I have said this for a while now, use numbers and a wrist band. signal in play 32 and let him call it out that way, it's fast and easy and that is what Auburn had to do with Cam Newton.
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Oregon athletes also smoke a lot of weed and are questionable students (IMO), these boys have been accepted to one of the greatest Universties in the nation. I don't feel like we need to coddle (sp?) them... if they don't get it they don't play.
Hand signals are much faster.
Have you watched our guys signal in a call? It is anything but fast, and god forbid if you miss one of the calls, they have to start over because they are linear in nature.
While I understand your viewpoint, I am not willing to have your "no coddle" philosophy cost us games in the end. This isn't about coddling, it is about getting the best players on the field to give us the best possible chance to win the games.
Perfectly stated Irish Cedar.
Give Golson the reps. He's the best of the 4 in many ways. Good and great coaches get it done. No excuses. Develop the Kid. That's one of the most important reasons Kelly was hired.
For some weird reason, Golson understood the play calling in high school.
in short...Hand signals are used primarily to speed up the offense and keep the opposing defense off balance and unable to make substitutions. Or in other words...the offense gets to create mismatches by keeping the opposing defense from doing so first.
Being able to do so efectively allows one team to control the tempo of the game over the other (while they possess the ball). Being able to maintain such an advantage for the majority of a football game is probably the difference between losing and winning, even if it only is reflected in a handful of plays.
Kelly and staff know what they are doing, If Golson can't run the offense the way they want, they have to be ready to accept the consequences. I am only hoping they are doing EVERYTHING possible as coaches to ensure Golson (and the other QBs) is put in the best position to succeed.
Yes! I said something similar in another thread and you say it better here.
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