Rockne's Roundtable

Why not? In two years they could be competing against each other. I guess a good topic is who are you more excited about. Both these guys are straight athletic. The one thing I loved about watching EG's film was he was a pass first, and even after the pocket collapsed, he would scramble until someone got opened. He reminded me of Vick his first year with Philly.

I haven't watched much ok ZM, but I did like what I saw. He has been critized a little about his arm, but I did not see that in what I watched.

I think the important thing is that BK is bringing guys in who fit the system. EG, ZM and even Kiel are capable of running the spread the way it should be run, something Rees lacked and what AH was not brought in for, though he may be capable of doing it.

To make you ask stupid questions

Gunner should transfer then.

Golson bc he will be established

It's a stupid thread. 6 months ago it was the same thing about Kiel. Now he is out of the picture?

If there is anything ND fans should've learned after this offseason, it is that there is 0 reason to get excited about a verbal committ. I remember when Tee Sheppard and Darby threads were a plenty as the best secondary ND will have ever had. How is that workin out?

There's just no reason to discuss something like this. Golson, while most of us are high and hopeful on him, hasn't taken a snap. He could fall flat on his face. Zaire isn't even a Senior in high school yet.

I get it's the offseason and you're excited about the potential recruiting class but its threads like these where it turns into "expert" opinions out of posters that blow up into silly arguments and meaningless debates.

It's just a dumb question. I'm sorry for being a jerk but there is just no purpose to this thread how it was headlined. If you want to ask who people want to see as qb, go read any other thread it comes up in. If you want to compare this kid Zaire to someone, lets at least have it be someone who has taken a snap.

I'm going with the guy who has already seen an ND playbook.

Assuming MZ dowe not flake we really do have a deep bench at QB. Golson, Kiel and Zaire are all studs and in 2 years will all be looking to lead the Irish to a championship. Add in Hendrix and Rees and for at least 2013 you will have 5 scholarship players at QB ( although I suspect one of them would end up transferring).

The real question in my mind will be GK and EG. If EG does what I think he will this year, it will be hard to replace him with GK in 2013. And if either EG or GK is lighting it up it will be hard to see MZ getting on the field until 2016. But such is big time college football and if these kids went anywhere else they'd be facing the same prospect of either playing behind a more senior QB or fighting off stud recruitss more junior to them.

Still waiting on that thread from you

I saw an College Football Countdown and they did a break down and interview with Zaire, and he looked like a really good prospect; smart, driven, and athletic. I feel bad for whoever doesn't get the job because we have a stable of elite quarterbacks right now. If Kelly can't get it done with Zaire, Golson, Kiel, or Hendrix, he needs to be canned.

Certainly a premature thread, but not a terrible one. The big thing it underscores is how quick and fickle recruiting can be for fans and teams alike. It's a non-issue now, but if Golson struggles or still can't capture the starting job this fall fans will quickly dive into Kiel/Zaire debates will full force. Likewise with Zaire getting elite 11 status and hype going into the fall the inevitable "will he stick with ND" chatter will be upcoming. Every positive step forward by Golson will be used to recruit Zaire away from ND saying he'd have to sit behind EG.
The need to sign a top QB every year never makes sense until it is needed. Just a few years ago nd went from Clausen, Jones, Frazer, Sharpley to Clausen, Crist to Crist, Rees, Montana, Hendrix then Golson. A strong battle turned into throwing a FR into the fire. Then being stacked with 5 star studs and set for 7 years led to few wins, Clausen leaving early and a recovering Crist with nothing behind him ready.

Now we have an "embarrassment of riches" of studs that haven't beaten out everyone's least favorite QB or are still in HS.