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Irish Cedar said...
What can be done? Coaches call check with me's all game? Another player like an OL call part of the play? We have to think of something people! Post your suggestions and I will send them to Kelly.
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dave83nd said...
Golson ran scout team all last year. Practiced with the second team all Spring while Rees and Hendrix practiced with the first team. Golson ran most of the plays in the Spring game with #2 offense. Still did OK.
Give him 1st string reps and focus and attention -- see how fast he picks up running the offense.
No big deal. It will come.
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hemy said...
Here is what I suggest: the offensive and defensive team captains schedule "flag-football scrimmages" twice a week beginning in June when the whole team is on campus.
Let's say Golson is the QB. The plays are signaled in from the sidelines and stop-watches are used so that Golson only gets the prescribed seconds to get a play off. Teo (or some other captain) calls defensive signals, both of the "vanilla" variety and those designed to confuse Golson.
The full playbooks for both offense and defense are available for use and are introduced as the summer progresses.
Scoring can be similar to what was used in the BG game.
The whole point is to have regular scrimmages in shorts (no pads since no tackling) where the QBs are forced to practice the things they are weak on:
1) Golson---time management to get plays in and communicated to the offense;
2) Golson---defense switching coverages, blitzing, faking blizing,etc. to force him to recognize defenses and be able (within the time allowed to get a play off ) to audible to another play
3) Hendrix---defensive switching to get him more used to seeing the field and to get him to recognize coverages and audible to another play;
4) Rees--to refine his understanding and get him to avoid minus yard plays like the plaque;
5) Kiel---all of the above, including just his running plays against a relatively "vanilla" defense at this stage;
6) Defense---learning to deal with a running QB; focus a lot on our defense backs turning to look for the ball;
Point: Golson, Hendrix can learn plays, can in fact improve accuracy and timing with receivers with 7 on 7 drills and the like but what we need for Golson and Hendrix especially is a continuation of Saturday where each is forced to get plays in from the sidelines, recognize the defense, audible if they have to and execute all without being forced to call time out. And to do it, again, and again, and again-----
So, this has to be a "true team" effort (offense/defense) to help get your Golson and Hendrix ready to be the starter. And, it has to be, as near as possible, to "live game" situations, with the whole offense and defense doing it--perhaps once or twice a week.
The flag part is to emphasize we don't want tackling---it is a scrimmage with the purpose of getting our QBs ready, not to prove we can bust tackles, etc.
And, perhaps the offensive and defensive lines don't really block and shed blocks with intensity, just enough to make it realistic for Everett and Andrew and Tommy.
Finally, they can add wrinkles but the key is for Golson to read the play that is called, communicate the called play to the team and gradually learn enough to recognize the defense so that he can audible into the right play. And, to do that, he must have the experience of actually doing it, so, let's "voluntarily" as a team provide the means to do it--a series of controlled scrimmages as near as possible fashioned after game conditions where he gets the feel of actually running the show.
Obviously, just a thought, but, I started a similar thread entitled "what's going to happen this summer" and got one response so thanks Irish Cedar for putting it in a way to get responses.
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Toro said...
A lot of unneccessary effort that could possibly result in NCAA violations if coaches were found to be involved in your scheme in any way. The other players aren't responsible for Golson learning the playbook or hand signals. Golson is. From the sounds of things, he hasn't done his homework and is relying totally on his athleticism to win the job. Street-ball isn't going to do it...he needs to be better prepared individually.
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Toro said...
A lot of unneccessary effort that could possibly result in NCAA violations if coaches were found to be involved in your scheme in any way. The other players aren't responsible for Golson learning the playbook or hand signals. Golson is. From the sounds of things, he hasn't done his homework and is relying totally on his athleticism to win the job. Street-ball isn't going to do it...he needs to be better prepared individually.
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hemy said...
First, arrange it so the coaches are not involved. End of NCAA violation.
Two, "learning the playbook and signals" is not the problem. The problems with Golson, and Hendrix for that matter, revolve around two issues:
1) reading the hand-signals and communicating the initial play to the offense without calling time-out after time-out after time-out;
2) being able to read the defensive coverage, anticipate defensive switches and then, audible into the right play.
Consider: Rees, at least, audibled on Saturday a number of times; neither Golson, nor Hendrix did once----not a particularly comforting thing when we are faced with what the DCs of Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Oklahoma, Miami, USC, not to name the Pittsburghs of this world will do to confuse the living hell out of him.
And, this arrangement actually helps out the entire team just as scrimmages do--hell, our DBs can practice turning their heads to find the ball.
The question posed by Irish Cedar was whether we board geniuses had any ideas to help. What I find amusing is that threads that complain about this and complain about that are well visited; threads that actually ask for imagination and positive steps to aid the team receive meager feedback.
To some extent, we all realize that BK and his staff are not going to accept our ideas--that's pretty much a given. But, from what I saw, Golson should be the starter based upon "art"; he needs help learning the "science" and it doesn't come from simply learning the playbook.
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hemy said...
Toro,
I am really not trying to be argumentative and I really could not care less about the "flag football concept" since it was first, only a suggestion and secondly, Kelly's not going to authorize the captains to do it, anyhow. I would like to focus on your comment: "Golson was having trouble picking up the hand signals and translating that into the proper play call." Obviously, this can be because he doesn't know the plays---more time "studying" the playbook. But, what if he knows the plays but can't read the signs quick enough, can't communicate them quick enough (I assume Kelly feels getting the play from the press box to the sideline is not the problem). All I am saying is that, especially if Kelly continues with the "3 QB rotation" system come August camp, Golson may not have enough repetitions to emerge as the starter.
And, at some point, if Golson's the man, he will have to learn how to audible, especially as the season progresses.So, I was simply trying to get him more of an opportunity to have defenses try to confuse him over the summer and only as and if he progresses enough that the captains think it appropriate.
I just feel the 7 on 7 and other type "drills" even if done during the summer will not help either Golson or Hendrix be the starter--and thus, we are by default left with TR as the most "comfortable" choice.
What "exercises" or "drills" would you suggest? I am being serious (not sarcastic) and I think Irish Cedar wants us to come up with some concrete ideas.
Thanx.
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