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Irish Blow By Red Storm

  • http://notredame.247sports.com/Article/No-24-Notre-Dame-blows-past-St-Johns-for-66-40-victory-119833

    No. 24 Notre Dame blows by Red Storm for 66-40 victory on Senior Night.

    Wes Morgan

  • The defense is coming to the fore, and none too soon. The second half was as complete of a twenty minute stretch as they've had, and they're at the point where they're putting away teams like Cinci and St. John's, instead of edging or losing to them. But, they can't afford first halves like they had tonight, and expect to beat upper echelon teams. They will dig too deep of a hole. That's the next step they need to take, and take it quickly. Brey makes a good point when he says that Grant and Atkins need to look for their shots, and not just for the pass. Grant has a remarkable stroke. Hit a few threes, and you can spread the defense, open the lane, give Cooley some breathing room, etc. But, the shots have to fall.

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    I may not be pretty, but I'm fast..... POTW 1/31/11 - 2/6/11

    HamOnWry22

  • A strong second half that led to a good win. We should now be secure in our tourney berth. It is a shame what happened in the end and our guy has to miss a game from basically defending himself.

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    edd1066

  • That 2nd half is honestly what I've waiting for all year. Great drive penetration, taking it to the rim or great passes. The exact opposite of the 1st 1/2.

    jfkoehl

  • Kind of amazing to see that in three of its last four games ND has limited the opposition to 42 (Pitt), 41 (Cincinnati) and 40 (St. John's) points.

    I don't want to marginalize what Notre Dame is doing on defense because it is playing well collectively ... but man, teams just don't shoot that well today. A 40-point production used to be an average half.

    You think back to the Austin Carr days more than 40 years ago when there was no shot clock, no three-point line, 40 minutes ... and the Irish would win games like 121-114 against Butler. Of course, that was the other extreme when defense was more a rumor. Somewhere there must be a happy medium.

    I know the women's game understandably receives a lot of criticism for sloppy play — 56 turnovers between 2 and 3 teams ND and UConn earlier this week — but I don't know if 52-41 games aren't ragged too on the men's side.

    Lou Somogyi

  • Lou Somogyi said...

    Kind of amazing to see that in three of its last four games ND has limited the opposition to 42 (Pitt), 41 (Cincinnati) and 40 (St. John's) points.

    I don't want to marginalize what Notre Dame is doing on defense because it is playing well collectively ... but man, teams just don't shoot that well today. A 40-point production used to be an average half.

    You think back to the Austin Carr days more than 40 years ago when there was no shot clock, no three-point line, 40 minutes ... and the Irish would win games like 121-114 against Butler. Of course, that was the other extreme when defense was more a rumor. Somewhere there must be a happy medium.

    I know the women's game understandably receives a lot of criticism for sloppy play — 56 turnovers between 2 and 3 teams ND and UConn earlier this week — but I don't know if 52-41 games aren't ragged too on the men's side.

    Lou, I can't put my finger on it, but the I've just found the Irish hard to watch this year. Conversely, last year, at season's end, I couldn't get enough of them. I haven't watched enough games outside of the Big East to offer an opinion, but in this conference, I have not seen an impressive offensive team, and that includes Georgetown, though Porter obviously can fill it up some nights. Marquette shot lights out against the Irish but that was an aberration. Louisville wins mostly because of swarming defense, though Smith has his nights. Syracuse is not a good offensive team. We saw what Pitt can do. If I'm not mistaken, the Irish are leading the Big East in field goal percentage. I rest my case.

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    HamOnWry22

  • The benefit of having an experienced team (or one of them), is the fact that consistency should rarely be a problem. You never know what you are going to get from this team, not only game to game but half to half. That being said, that second half was the best they have played this year.

    I admit that I was ready to give up on this team in the first half, but that Atkins shot was huge and I certainly think it gave us some momentum going into the break.

    We certainly can win two games in the tourney given the landscape of college basketball, but it has to be the "good" Notre Dame team that shows up and not their evil alter ego.

    Scottfan34

  • Can qnyone explain why Brey took Tom Knight out in the first half after going 2-2 on shots and basically being our only offense in the first 5 minutes. I only played HS ball, but I know it can be very difficult to rediscover your stroke after sitting for many minutes on the bench. I understand you want to get all some action but I do believe you have to pick your spots.

    Also we have to get Sherman and Connoughton going. P.C. had a better second half, but still not hitting his threes and Sherman was a complete non factor.

    Scottfan34

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