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Irish QBs: ‘It’s A Long Process’

  • http://notredame.247sports.com/Article/Brian-Kelly-reviews-Notre-Dames-sixth-practice-68045

    Head coach Brian Kelly says decisions about the quarterback position will have to wait until pre-season camp.

    Lou Somogyi

  • Kelly's comments, "...we have not even got to the ‘checks’ in our offense yet. It’s ‘call it and play.' " and, "...how far we are from even being able to say the quarterback is ready, we’re not even there in terms of our system.”, kinda make me wonder. We've got Rees who's started one season and played about half of another. Hendrix who is getting half the reps with first team this season for the second season in a row and we still don't have "the system implemented." If it's not done by now, is it ever going to be? Is there some sorta magic that the QB's in Kelly's system in the past had that these guys don't? What gives with them still being unable to put in the full system that Kelly has run everywhere else?

    AcworthIrish75

  • AcworthIrish75 said...

    Kelly's comments, "...we have not even got to the ‘checks’ in our offense yet. It’s ‘call it and play.' " and, "...how far we are from even being able to say the quarterback is ready, we’re not even there in terms of our system.”, kinda make me wonder. We've got Rees who's started one season and played about half of another. Hendrix who is getting half the reps with first team this season for the second season in a row and we still don't have "the system implemented." If it's not done by now, is it ever going to be? Is there some sorta magic that the QB's in Kelly's system in the past had that these guys don't? What gives with them still being unable to put in the full system that Kelly has run everywhere else?

    I think if you read between the lines on that comment and his others as well, there is no way that Rees is the starter next year. This entire competition has been set up so that someone other than Rees can start. We all know if the QB was running well in practice, it wasn't Rees, who runs like a 9 year old boy amongst men. No idea who will emerge as the starter, but I am willing to bet that it won't be Rees, and not just because I don't want it to be either.

    IrishWon

    This post was edited by IrishWon on 3/30/2012 at 11:55 AM

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  • Im really hoping that Kelly is doing all of this and saying "its a long process" full well knowing he is going to have to groom a new QB to get ready for the season. It feels that way. With that said, Gunners head is spinning so its doubtful he is the starter. Rees is gone because well he is Rees. So that leaves Golson and Hendrix. Will Golson show that he will hold onto the football and has a better grasp of the offense? The potential is there for him to kill it in this offense. Is he ready yet is the question. Or do we go with Hendrix, who has proven he has some big play abilities but the question mark is still there on him after some of his play. Are either ready to lead us? One thing is for sure, we cannot go with Rees again.

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  • IrishWon said...

    I think if you read between the lines on that comment and his others as well, there is no way that Rees is the starter next year. This entire competition has been set up so that someone other than Rees can start. We all know if the QB was running well in practice, it was Rees, who runs like a 9 year old boy amongst men. No idea who will emerge as the starter, but I am willing to bet that it won't be Rees, and not just because I don't want it to be either.

    IrishWon

    I get it and think he's doing the right thing by hitting the proverbial "reset" button...I think Rees gets it too and that's why he had that 40 yard "scamper" we all read about last week.

    What I'm more concerned with though is that no one seems to have the ability to digest this offense. Even with the lightest two-star qb's, I'd have assumed they'd be able to wrap their noggin around the framework of the offensive scheme and be able to move to the more complex portions after two seasons.

    Is it just coach speak or do we have a race to see who is the least likely to screw up & can hold onto the ball?

    AcworthIrish75

  • I'm not sure there's enough patience around South Bend for "long processes" at this point in Notre Dame football's history. This is a coach that was touting his management of Pike/Collaros, and rightfully so - they were an efficient and productive QB tandem around Pike's injuries. He took a relative unknown in Dan LeFevour in at Central Michigan and coached him to more than 3,000 yards and a 146.2 passer rating (the second highest of his four-year collegiate career) as a freshman.

    It's perplexing how that position has been hands down the weakest of his tenure at Notre Dame. Hope he gets it figured out this season. I don't think he'll want to go into pressure-packed years 4 and 5 (the final two of his original contract) with so much uncertainty at quarterback.

    John Haynsworth

  • John Haynsworth said...

    I'm not sure there's enough patience around South Bend for "long processes" at this point in Notre Dame football's history. This is a coach that was touting his management of Pike/Collaros, and rightfully so - they were an efficient and productive QB tandem around Pike's injuries. He took a relative unknown in Dan LeFevour in at Central Michigan and coached him to more than 3,000 yards and a 146.2 passer rating (the second highest of his four-year collegiate career) as a freshman.

    It's perplexing how that position has been hands down the weakest of his tenure at Notre Dame. Hope he gets it figured out this season. I don't think he'll want to go into pressure-packed years 4 and 5 (the final two of his original contract) with so much uncertainty at quarterback.

    Good post. I have been hard on Kelly because quite frankly he has underperformed and the area I thought we would be great at, has underperformed as well as you said. If he messes up the QB situation this year as he did last year, year 4 will have a Charlie Weis-ish feel going into it.

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  • It seems that BK "dummied down" the offense to allow the competition to proceed without Rees having an unfair bias. This has shown to me more than anything that BK feels that Rees reached his full potential, whereas some of the back-ups are still on an upward trajectory, full of potential. This is good coaching, to me.

    Now, settle the starter, and get him ready, coach. I can't go through another season with an incomplete offensive package. That is inept.

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  • AcworthIrish75 said...

    I get it and think he's doing the right thing by hitting the proverbial "reset" button...I think Rees gets it too and that's why he had that 40 yard "scamper" we all read about last week.

    What I'm more concerned with though is that no one seems to have the ability to digest this offense. Even with the lightest two-star qb's, I'd have assumed they'd be able to wrap their noggin around the framework of the offensive scheme and be able to move to the more complex portions after two seasons.

    Is it just coach speak or do we have a race to see who is the least likely to screw up & can hold onto the ball?

    Your questions seems much like the question I have been asking for over 1 year now: "Why in the world can't our players figure out how to run this offense in the hurry-up tempo?"
    The answer that comes back from the coaches is that they still haven't grasped the offense overall so they can't go as fast as he would like.
    But this begs another very big question, to me: "How can our kids be so smart in the classroom, yet be unable to grasp a hurry up offense that the Cincy players were able to run in year 2?"

    These 2 questions are what bothers me the most about Brian Kelly's tenure thus far.

    IrishWon

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  • Why are you guys only posting 3 minutes of a 13 minute presser? If it's published on youtube isn't it free to post in it's entirety and public domain?

    My luck w/the Irish 18-6...GO IRISH!!!

    simm

  • IrishWon said...

    Your questions seems much like the question I have been asking for over 1 year now: "Why in the world can't our players figure out how to run this offense in the hurry-up tempo?" The answer that comes back from the coaches is that they still haven't grasped the offense overall so they can't go as fast as he would like. But this begs another very big question, to me: "How can our kids be so smart in the classroom, yet be unable to grasp a hurry up offense that the Cincy players were able to run in year 2?"

    These 2 questions are what bothers me the most about Brian Kelly's tenure thus far.

    IrishWon

    Yeah, I thought development was his thing?

    simscj2001

  • If all the QBs are on even footing, why do Rees and Hendrix only get first team reps? I believe you can read into that.....at least on March 30th :).

    NDFan76

  • The key to the QB position was stated yesterday I believe when Kelly stated they are taking much of the decision process out of the position. Kelly and the staff want more "control" and have the QB react more than think. In a nutshell, they are simplifying the position.

    Again, the theory this year will be getting athletes in space to make plays. Less about the QB making the right read. This is great to hear and I expect more success from the QBs this year.

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  • Not grasping the system? Did anyone ever think that BK has the s... scared out of these kids if they make a mistake? Why so many check downs at the line, TR doesn't want to make a mistake, calls what he thinks is a safer play and turns it over anyway. Granted TR is not the answer. Looking at what is left, give the ball to Gunner. If he does not the ball now, then when? The best thing about a freshman is that he becomes a sophmore...at what point does he get experience if he does not start now? Navy is a great opportunity to give him the ball...Gunner will be the answer now and in the future as he leads us to a NC!!!!!

    This post was edited by Commish on 3/30/2012 at 4:33 PM

    Commish

  • Here is my two cents for the 100th time.. WRONG OFFENSE at ND... WE ARE line up an whip your butt... get stable of running backs, QB that can run pro style O... throw the ball down field while running some option... Honestly we could line up in the wish bone again or flex bone and win and win big... with the right coaching... THE kEY to winning in COLLEGE two things... RUNNING the ball and grea defense... not fancy schemes, passing reads all that BS... Alabama, LSU, even florida with TEBOW pounded you....

    So there is the truth... wrong offense, wrong coach...

    Dan

    dpoore12

  • dpoore12 said...

    Here is my two cents for the 100th time.. WRONG OFFENSE at ND... WE ARE line up an whip your butt... get stable of running backs, QB that can run pro style O... throw the ball down field while running some option... Honestly we could line up in the wish bone again or flex bone and win and win big... with the right coaching... THE kEY to winning in COLLEGE two things... RUNNING the ball and grea defense... not fancy schemes, passing reads all that BS... Alabama, LSU, even florida with TEBOW pounded you....

    So there is the truth... wrong offense, wrong coach...

    Dan

    You're wrong. Sorry.

    IrishWon

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  • Irish I am right... sorry back... Lets go play Alabama or LSU and see what they do to us... smash our faces... what ND has always done and needs to do to win...

    Wish you understood.... darn

    dpoore12

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  • John Haynsworth said...

    I'm not sure there's enough patience around South Bend for "long processes" at this point in Notre Dame football's history. This is a coach that was touting his management of Pike/Collaros, and rightfully so - they were an efficient and productive QB tandem around Pike's injuries. He took a relative unknown in Dan LeFevour in at Central Michigan and coached him to more than 3,000 yards and a 146.2 passer rating (the second highest of his four-year collegiate career) as a freshman.

    It's perplexing how that position has been hands down the weakest of his tenure at Notre Dame. Hope he gets it figured out this season. I don't think he'll want to go into pressure-packed years 4 and 5 (the final two of his original contract) with so much uncertainty at quarterback.

    Good post john.

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  • John Haynsworth said...

    I'm not sure there's enough patience around South Bend for "long processes" at this point in Notre Dame football's history. This is a coach that was touting his management of Pike/Collaros, and rightfully so - they were an efficient and productive QB tandem around Pike's injuries. He took a relative unknown in Dan LeFevour in at Central Michigan and coached him to more than 3,000 yards and a 146.2 passer rating (the second highest of his four-year collegiate career) as a freshman.

    It's perplexing how that position has been hands down the weakest of his tenure at Notre Dame. Hope he gets it figured out this season. I don't think he'll want to go into pressure-packed years 4 and 5 (the final two of his original contract) with so much uncertainty at quarterback.

    this "long process" and the inexperience of the qb's to run kelly's system is at the foundation of my anxiety that the offense can't, won't or will be functionally ineffective running the football. i don't care what type of system you run. with your qb's learning on the fly and the inheirant complexity of this ofense, if we don't have the ability to run the ball with power, control the clock and take some of that pressure off the young qb's, we are screwed. BK must realize this and be comitted to the reps in practice and the game plan itself. but ya know what, i'll believe it when i see it. run the ***damn football......

    Run the ball. Stop the run. You win, or lose, up front.

    Coach_Clancy

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