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Irish Spring: Quarterbacks

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    irish13

  • johnny49532 said...

    Reese was no better at the end of the season than at the beginnig. Kelly should have bitten the bullet and started either Golson or Hendrix taken his lumps last year and have an experienced first rate qb ready to go this year

    Rees got worse as the season went along. His limitations are to much to overcome. Next year 8 wins is what I'm expecting. I think we win 8 games with a number of QB's. Let the young guys play and get them ready for 2013.

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  • One thing we don't know is what Tommy has done to his body in the weight room with Coach Longo.

    When he shows up for Spring ball I expect him to still be 6'2. But will he still weigh 210 or will he have bulked up to 225?

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    cdarcy

  • Lou Somogyi said...

    Irishnorcal,

    Yes, he did throw three picks as a freshman in the Coliseum. He also directed a clutch 62-yard drive to close the first half and found Floyd in the end zone with seven seconds left. Then he directed the 77-yard game-winner, not making the mistake that could have cost the game.

    What is Joe Montana's most famous game at ND? Most would say the 35-34 Cotton Bowl win. Do you realize he was 13 of 34 in that game with four interceptions, and also lost a fumble in the closing minute at his 20? The team helped bail him out with a blocked punt return for a TD and the defense making a 4th-and-inches stop with 28 seconds left. But it's Montana who gets all the glory.

    Tony Rice started the 1988 season 5-of-21 with two picks in victories over Michigan and MSU, with just one offensive TD in those games. It was a team effort, but Tony becomes the ND legend. You can use these type of examples with any ND QB in history.

    I'm not saying Rees is Montana or Rice, or anyone else. But he's the best ND had at the time, and the young man showed an awful lot of guts. All I'm asking is be fair.

    It's silly to say Rees was the reason ND was 4-0 with him as the starter in 2010, and it's equally unfair to single him out why ND lost five games again last season. If someone is better, let him be at the throttle, and more power to him.

    Thanks, Lou, for your usual keen perspective.

    I'd be curious to know the percentage of highly regarded quarterbacks who have come to ND in the past 30 - 40 years, and not really lived up to their billing. That's a subjective criterion, but I still get the feeling that however it's determined, the percentage would be surprisingly high. Frankly, Rees outperformed most of them, thrown into a situation he shouldn't have faced until, minimally, his third year here, yet he became the public face for every disappointment felt by disgruntled fans. He won the position because others had shown the coaches even less. If he starts the season, this year, it will be for that same reason. If the others start, they will be even less experienced than he was, and you cannot underestimate the importance of experience in the quarterback position. Unless Golson or Kiel are precociously talented to compensate for their lack of experience, the Irish will not be operating from a position of strength at quarterback. That's the reality that fans must deal with, and yes, it does include the possibility of Tommy Rees starting the season at quarterback. Finishing, however, will be another question, altogether.

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    HamOnWry22

  • Ham,

    You can go on and on with that list from let's just say the past four decades.

    Gary Forystek came in as a Parade All-American with Joe Montana in 1974 ... Moeller's Tim Koegel was so good when he arrived in 1977, the NFL's legendary Paul Brown reportedly said Koegel could go straight from high school to the pros ... In 1979 New York's John Skronski was featured as perhaps the No. 1 QB in the East (John Elway had the honor in the West) ... Scott Grooms was Parade's No. 1 QB in 1980 — ahead of No. 3 Blair Kiel ... Ken Karcher was tabbed as another "Joe Willie" by recruiting maven Joe Terranova in 1981 ... Kent Graham was the Touchdown Club National High School QB of the Year in 1986 (it was Vinny Testaverde in college and Phil Simms in the NFL) ... and we haven't even touched on Mirer, Kelchner, Powlus, Parade AA Arnaz Battle, Carlyle Holiday (a Michael Vick or Tommie Frazier reincarnate), the LeBron James of high school QBs Clausen, or five-star Dayne Crist ....

    "They'll never forget you until somebody new comes along."
    — The Eagles

    Lou Somogyi ●

  • Lou Somogyi said...

    Ham,

    You can go on and on with that list from let's just say the past four decades.

    Gary Forystek came in as a Parade All-American with Joe Montana in 1974 ... Moeller's Tim Koegel was so good when he arrived in 1977, the NFL's legendary Paul Brown reportedly said Koegel could go straight from high school to the pros ... In 1979 New York's John Skronski was featured as perhaps the No. 1 QB in the East (John Elway had the honor in the West) ... Scott Grooms was Parade's No. 1 QB in 1980 — ahead of No. 3 Blair Kiel ... Ken Karcher was tabbed as another "Joe Willie" by recruiting maven Joe Terranova in 1981 ... Kent Graham was the Touchdown Club National High School QB of the Year in 1986 (it was Vinny Testaverde in college and Phil Simms in the NFL) ... and we haven't even touched on Mirer, Kelchner, Powlus, Parade AA Arnaz Battle, Carlyle Holiday (a Michael Vick or Tommie Frazier reincarnate), the LeBron James of high school QBs Clausen, or five-star Dayne Crist ....

    "They'll never forget you until somebody new comes along." — The Eagles

    Thanks, Lou. That was about as enjoyable as going through my high school yearbook, and taking note of all the girls who turned down my prom invite.

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  • HamOnWry22 said...

    Thanks, Lou. That was about as enjoyable as going through my high school yearbook, and taking note of all the girls who turned down my prom invite.

    lol

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