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Bobirish21 said...
I really don't care about the "crime". Its the decision to commit the same "crime" a second time. When Crist was hurt, yes, most of us were prepared to give up on the season and we were wrong. The difference is that Crist is not a star. Up to this point, Dayne has been an average player. Some, including me, were thinking that he should have been replaced before his injury. Floyd is a star. If you were asked "are we a better team with MF?" wouldn't every one of us say yes?
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svsubalum said...
I don't think Floyd sees the field again. ND is under a microscope on a regular basis, and the University has it's own microscope. Goodbye Floyd and hello the Sun Bowl next year!!!!
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HamOnWry22 said...
Last year, when Dayne Crist went down, nearly every Notre Dame fan felt the season was over because of the anticipated drop off in talent in his replacement. Let's give it some time before we declare the sky has fallen.
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A better "title" for this post that was created could have been posted,or edited by now,but the content of what is in everyone's post is more important than the "title" chosen! Anyway, my reply:
I'm sure this was his last chance over the weekend to blow off steam before spring practice started. I'm sure he never set out on Saturday night to wind up in the position he is in! The pressure that he was under prior to Saturday night, is nothing to what he is experiencing now! I am in no way making an excuse,but would like to see him achieve the success that his Mother, and he set out to do,when he came to Notre Dame. He is facing a tough time, that needs everyone around him support. Just remember, his Mother is in Minnesota,not in the next room to help him with this self inflected disaster that he caused himself! At this point, he needs the support of his teammates, his coaches, counseling sessions.The Notre Dame community needs to also step up,and find a way to lend him a hand. I've read too many post that everyone just wants to bash,cause that's what they only know how to do. He could of left for the NFL, like some other selfish athletes did recently, but he choose to stay at ND,finish his degree, and help the resurgence of a football team I think he truly loves! Does anyone truly think that Michael Floyd does not know down deep,the honor of getting and fullfilling a Notre Dame athletic scholarship? If that was the case,than why did he come back for his Sr year at Notre Dame? Yes, he screwed up as clearly as has pointed out by everyone,but obviously he needs some help! This is no time to turn your back on someone,that everyone agrees,can use and needs some help and guidence. Throwing him out of ND, suspending him from football games, does nothing to help him understand the seriousness of drinking, or drinking and driving. People who get convicted of DUI, dont have to loose there jobs, quit going to class, or get kicked off football teams. What they do need to do, is be supported, educated, and rehabbed, and show that they do "get it." I think for the most part, Michael Floyld has given his all to Notre Dame, the football program, his respect to get a education, and to all the fans. I'm sure no one in this world feels worse about the position he is in, except maybe his Mother. So can people try to help him head in the right direction, do what any other 21 yr old adult would need help facing? Maybe others that have or are still doing the same thing as he has been caught doing, can learn for this very horrible position, he now finds himself in! He's human, and made a human mistake, that he must "face the music" for! That's the unfortnate problem and truth that he must now face. He'll learn from this legally in society,and Residence Life should see he gets that help,and not turn there back on him for his mistake.They need to still try to do the right thing for Michael Floyd, and every other student who comes to Notre Dame for the education they all need to use in LIFE!
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Bish727 said...
This is very easy to say and be all high and mighty about now, but when you're 18-22 and surrounded by it, it's much harder to do. Not saying drinking and driving isn't stupid nor is it hard to avoid, but to not drink in public at all isn't the answer. Holing oneself up in the dungeons known as the ND dorm rooms, would drive one to suicide.
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NJIrishND23 said...
If someone told me I could go to Notre Dame for free, play football, and possibly make millions from it, and part of the deal was to make sure I never got publicly intoxicated; then guess what - I would make sure I never got publicly intoxicated.
Bish727 said...
This is very easy to say and be all high and mighty about now, but when you're 18-22 and surrounded by it, it's much harder to do. Not saying drinking and driving isn't stupid nor is it hard to avoid, but to not drink in public at all isn't the answer. Holing oneself up in the dungeons known as the ND dorm rooms, would drive one to suicide.
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NJIrishND23 said...
ND Q, with all due respect...why do people continue to look for every reason why he made this stupid mistake, besides he just plain chose it? He, and only he, is accountable. He did not do it because of a less fortunate upbringing. He knew the rules, he knew what was at risk, and he made his choice. End of story. Looking to spread the blame around only dilutes Michael's accountability. Blaming these kids' upbringing is merely handing them a crutch. Michael Floyd is living the dream, and made a stupid decision. I can not believe folks are weeping for him. Do you feel bad when millionaire's file for bankrupcy?
And yes, I believe I work (and worked) as hard as Michael Floyd (and with no where near the accolades because I had no where near the God given gifts). At 5'6" I played D3 football, at 46 I am a practicing black belt in tae kwon do. I am raising a family and paying a mortgage on a working man's salary. Don't tell me about hard work, and it being a reason we should go easy on Mike. Mike's life is a dream, and he took it for granted.
I'm a fan of Notre Dame football. I don't pretend to care about these kids' personal lives any more than I care for any kid.Do I wish them well? Of course I do. But we are too quick to blame society for the poor choices of the individual.
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NJIrishND23 said...
ND Q, with all due respect...why do people continue to look for every reason why he made this stupid mistake, besides he just plain chose it? He, and only he, is accountable. He did not do it because of a less fortunate upbringing. He knew the rules, he knew what was at risk, and he made his choice. End of story. Looking to spread the blame around only dilutes Michael's accountability. Blaming these kids' upbringing is merely handing them a crutch. Michael Floyd is living the dream, and made a stupid decision. I can not believe folks are weeping for him. Do you feel bad when millionaire's file for bankrupcy?
And yes, I believe I work (and worked) as hard as Michael Floyd (and with no where near the accolades because I had no where near the God given gifts). At 5'6" I played D3 football, at 46 I am a practicing black belt in tae kwon do. I am raising a family and paying a mortgage on a working man's salary. Don't tell me about hard work, and it being a reason we should go easy on Mike. Mike's life is a dream, and he took it for granted.
I'm a fan of Notre Dame football. I don't pretend to care about these kids' personal lives any more than I care for any kid.Do I wish them well? Of course I do. But we are too quick to blame society for the poor choices of the individual.
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Let's call a spade a spade; Floyd screwed up our football season