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ND-FSU Tip-Off 9:40 p.m. on Sunday

  • Notre Dame has been installed as an early 5-point favorite, with the over-under at 133.5. Think of a 69-64 Irish victory to advance to the Sweet 16 in San Antonio next week.

    As stated in a previous thread, Iit will definitely be a contrast in styles. Coach Leonard Hamilton's teams are known foremost for defense, and they will want to probably keep the game in the 50s or low 60s, similar to the 57-50 win against Texas A&M in the first round. It lost earlier in the year 58-44 to No. 1 Ohio State, but beat No. 1 Duke, 66-61, at FSU.

    They do not want to get into a shootout with ND because they don't have that kind of firepower offensively. Their top scorer is 6-9 Chris SIngleton, who averages 13.5 per game, and second is 6-4 Derwin Kitchen at 10.0. They shoot only 43.7 percent from the field (32.9 from three), but what is most noteworthy is the 'Noles hold their opponents to 36.2 percent shooting from the floor (30.4 from three). It's ND's shooting versus FSU's defense.

    One other huge contrast in this game is FSU liberally rotates 10 players per game, which is why no one really has a high scoring average. Ten guys average at least 14.4 minutes per game, and none more than 30.2. ND, on the other hand, is a 7-man rotation, and Cooley is around 10 minutes per contest. They do what Louisville does with Rick Pitino, but again lack the overall firepower.

    This post was edited by Lou Somogyi on 3/19/2011 at 6:30 AM

    Lou Somogyi

  • I think Notre Dame is going to be a tough matchup for Florida State.

    Offensively, I think one of Brey's weaknesses as an offensive coach will be a strength. It drives me nuts watching Tyler Zeller hit jump hooks in the lane for North Carolina, because I only remember Luke Zeller's 7-foot frame hanging out on the perimeter at Notre Dame. Carleton Scott does the same thing. He's not the 7-footer that Luke Zeller is, but he's still by far the best rebounder, and yet there he is game after game, taking two to three unnecessary three-pointers per outing. Take yesterday, for example - 14 rebounds, all defensive. A guy that is capable of snagging 14 rebounds against a 7-footer can't grab one offense rebound? Maybe he's out of position.

    But with that said, a guy like Scott has to be covered. Does Florida State rush one of it's two big men (in a three guard lineup) out there, or do they risk a smaller player either get shot over or backed down? And Scott can pass. The same with Tyrone Nash. Both Nash and Scott are always in unorthodox parts of the court at the offensive end, particularly when Nash brings the ball up court. I expect a guy like Scott Martin to find more shots in the lane against the Seminoles as he has the past couple of games against imposing interiors.

    And regardless of how well Florida State guards the three-point line, they still have to worry about getting dragged into a shootout with the Irish. If Notre Dame makes seven three pointers, again, it's going to tighten up a mediocre FSU offense, especially in a one-and-done scenario.

    But the area I think Notre Dame has the biggest advantage is at the free-throw line. Notre Dame was second in the Big East with 808 free throws attempted, and second with 587 makes. Florida State was dead last in the ACC with a percentage of just 66.3. They attempted 682 free throws and made 452 by comparison to Notre Dame's rates.

    Florida State might very well win, but I don't think they're anywhere near the most dynamic team Notre Dame would have faced in the tournament. If Florida State wins, then the Irish probably didn't play very well, and will likely have beaten themselves with poor shooting/shot selection and turnovers.

    This post was edited by John Haynsworth on 3/19/2011 at 8:31 AM

    John Haynsworth

  • We were sloppy throughout with too many turnovers and not enough hustle. We got outscrapped on D which is why the game was closer than it had to be.

    I doubt we'll play two sloppy games back to back. If we can contain Singleton, FSU doesn't have the firepower to stay with us.

    I see another double digit win over a double digit seed.

    We will, however, have to bring our A game to beat Purdue if we play them in the round of 16.

    My luck w/the Irish 18-6...GO IRISH!!!

    simm

  • simm said...

    We were sloppy throughout with too many turnovers and not enough hustle. We got outscrapped on D which is why the game was closer than it had to be.

    I doubt we'll play two sloppy games back to back. If we can contain Singleton, FSU doesn't have the firepower to stay with us.

    I see another double digit win over a double digit seed.

    We will, however, have to bring our A game to beat Purdue if we play them in the round of 16.

    IT would actually be 2.5 sloppy games back to back but I agree. I am hoping to see a Villanovaesque outing tomorrow. Lou,John, I heard somewhere last week in one of these bracket preview shows that FSU is not the same team as they were and one of their starters is out and since that time they are a .500 team. Can you guys elaborate or do I need my hearing checked?

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    egastro

  • i hate the start time btw,lol. I also think we will play better on sunday and hopefully advance to the sweet 16. Go Irish!

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    edd1066

  • egastro -

    Florida State was missing one of their stars - Chris Singleton - for about a month leading up to the tournament with a foot injury. Singleton played 16 minutes last night against A&M and had five points. His biggest shot was a three-pointer that the Aggies coach said was the biggest shot of the game. He was limping pretty badly in the post-game press conference, but I would be very surprised if he was not on the court Sunday. Seminoles head coach Leonard Hamilton said he was reluctant to play Singleton at all, but felt he owed it to the kid because he worked so hard rehabbing in the past month. Unfortunately, for the Irish, he and his very long 6-9 frame will likely be a big factor on both ends of the court.

    Dan Murphy

  • I will be stunned if the Irish don't go up-tempo, pull their big men outside to screen for Hansborough and Abromitis and let those two storm the paint to draw fouls and score from the line if they simply don't beat their man to the boards.

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