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Talent is the most essential component to any championship drive, but dozens of other confluences also play roles in the final results.
Ned Bolcar was the man!!! Loved those Holtz years. And Pagna was right except ND always gets everyone's best.
Great write up.
Wasn't McBride drafted? Perhaps by the Saints?
Wasn't McBride drafted? Perhaps by the Saints?
Wasn't McBride drafted? Perhaps by the Saints?
No. Here is a quote from Oscar in an interview of Where Are They Now....by No Coast Bias.com (http://nocoastbias.com/where-are-they-now-oscar-mcbride)
Q: What is your memory of Draft Day?
A: “Prior to draft day I had several conversations with teams who were interested in me. They would tell me things like, ‘if you are still available by x round of the draft, we’d be thrilled to take you.’”
“The NFL Draft finally arrives. The first day, and the first two rounds, come and go, and I was not picked up by any teams. I was kind of bummed because the Chicago Bears had expressed a significant amount of interest, and instead took a punter in the second round. A punter?”
“The third round came and went. Then the fourth … fifth … sixth … Are you kidding me? The seventh round came and went, and still no one had chosen me. After the draft was complete, my phone started ringing off the hook with teams talking to me about their interested in picking me up as a free agent. At this point I say to myself, I am a Florida boy who has lived in freezing South Bend, Indiana for four years, and I have my pick of several teams; I am going to pick somewhere warm! I signed to play tight end for the Arizona Cardinals, and by the fourth game of the season, I was the starting tight end.”
This post was edited by kking on 4/24/2013 at 9:27 AM
No down-vote please - thank you!
No down-vote por favor, gracias !
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Beat up Temple and get by Michigan at night in their place, and we are set up for a run. I agree that this is a better team and that it will be tough to repeat last year's good karma. On the other hand, we just might have much better QB play. Great, great article.
Good article, Lou. I always thought the '89 team was better than
the '88 team but the location of one single game---Miami--determined which year was going to be our national championship year.
And, more to your point about timing and "positioning": remember
that as late as the second weekend in November, 2012, undefeated Notre Dame was still on the outside looking in as far as making the national title game, with Alabama, Oregon as well as Kansas State seemingly on an easier path than us. Yet, all three lost.
And, what if Ohio State had been bowl eligible? Would it
have been Ohio State-Notre Dame or would the voters
have continued their propensity to place an SEC team in the
national championship game and then, would it
have been Ohio State-Alabama or Notre Dame-Alabama?
Some of the vicissitudes attendant on "getting" to the game
may well disappear with the "College Football Playoff" but
you are so right that talent alone will not guarantee a trip
to the national chamionship.
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Lou has coined the phrase "coaching equity" and that's exactly what Kelly built up last year. He may have lost a few points in the couple of weeks following the BCS Championship but his stock is still very high. Unfortunately he's going to feel what real Notre Dame pressure is the minute he loses a game in 2013. It comes with the job.
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Lou - any idea where Coach BK's contract stands at this point? It would be nice to wrap it up and not have it turn into an issue the media can beat to death.
Jack Swarbrick indicated that the preferred goal is to have it done before the 2013 season. The summer months might provide a little more time to hash out the terms and language. What's the rush? He just signed a two-year extension last year.
I dpn't think the media is making it an issue. The culture today is just contract-happy. Bottom line: If Brian Kelly loses the way Bob Davie and Charlie Weis did, it doesn't matter if he signs for 5 or 10 more years. He'll be gone. And if he wins a national title and really, really wants to go to the NFL, then he will. Those are parts of the contract that aren't publicized.
If he's burned out from the job by the end of the first decade like Frank Leahy, Ara Parseghian and Lou Holtz were, it doesn't matter if he signs through 2025.
I get it. Everyone wants the announcement to keep up appearances, and I don't disagree about getting financial rewards. In due time, it will all happen.
Good piece, Lou.
The 90 team was three plays away from an NC, instead of the 3 losses it actually sustained: Derek Brown dropping the ball in the end zone against Stanford on the last play of the game; the play that put Rocket out of the game against PSU, which they then won on a late FG; and the clipping penalty on Rocket against Colorado on the otherwise winning punt return TD.
Still, that was the first non-Alvarez-coached defense of the great Holtz years, and it showed. It was not a great defensive club.
As for this year, anything is possible. My sense is the odds would favor anything between 9-3 and another challenge for the BCS championship. I think the key will be in how well the new RB's turn out, including the two frosh and Carlisle in the slot. If they show up, the WR/TE passing game will also be more potent.
The D looks set, but, who knows? A couple of key injuries, a sense of entitlement or some outrageously talented opposition QB's could cause unforeseen problems there as well, though it is far less likely.
Again, this is all utterly speculative, and we shall see how far what happened last year has sunk into the team's collective psyche.
No one knows anything. Least of all we armchair prognosticators.
It all evens out in the wash. ND easily could have lost the first two games in '90 were it not for a couple of "Immaculate Deflections," Lake Dawson against Michigan and then Adrian Jarrell the next week against MIchigan State.
ND lost to a 5-6 Stanford team at home after leading 24-7. That game should have been put away by the third quarter. Ricky Watters also fumbled a couple of punts. It's never just "one play."
Yeah, Rocket got injured against Penn State — but that was the last play of the first half at home and ND leading 21-7. You still have guys like Watters, Tony Brooks, Rodney Culver and even freshman Jerome Bettis, and you still blow it on your home field. I don't like subscribing to the notion of "one play" losing a game.
ND blew a lot of opportunities against Colorado, including a missed PAT, well before that lll-fated punt return.
This is what I love about college football. You never know what will happen on any given game day. What I do believe is that ND will have another great season if they once again beat both michigan and Michigan State. Super story Lou, Thanks. Go Irish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All valid points, Lou, as far as they go.
But I was actually trying to illustrate your point, viz. that better teams don't always do as well as lesser teams and are often not as lucky.
And did you not say (or imply), as per Holtz, that the 90 team -- along with the 92 team -- may have been more talented than the 88, 89 and 93 teams -- even though the record didn't reflect it?
I was merely illustrating one of the reasons that the 90 team came up short. They got three bad breaks the likes of which the 88 team never sustained. All other things being equal, the 90 team was not as lucky as the 88 team, precisely for the reasons I cited.
Sure, a lot of breaks for both teams could have gone the other way, but, for the 88 team, it didn't happen. They got them all or at least the lion's share of them. And, up until the Alabama game, so did the 2012 team. The odds are clearly against the 2013 being as fortunate.
So, the point of your article is well taken, while my point, regarding the 90 season, illustrates just how telling and how capricious the differential in uncontrollable factors can be. But, again, all other things being equal, remove those three plays, and the 90 teams is very likely undefeated.
And would that have been a lucky outcome, all other factors considered? You betcha. But, again, exactly to your point. It would have been 88 all over again, which is exactly what everyone expected. Trouble is, the law of averages seldom works that favorably.
gotta love Z martin's honesty and insight. and i think perhaps privately alot of the players knew we were'nt really "that" good. after the first two bama drives, anybody with eyeballs could see the differences between the teams, especially up front......
Run the ball.
Stop the run.
You win, or lose, up front.
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