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ND Post-Spring Wrap-Up: O-Line

  • http://notredame.247sports.com/Article/A-post-spring-review-of-Notre-Dames-offensive-line-73689

    Personnel, coaching situation, potential freshman impact and vital stats are among the topics addressed.

    Lou Somogyi

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    garyfh

  • I am surpirsed that Lombard and Nichols on the right side isn't be considered the best combination. Those two could really be maulers with their size on running plays and seem to be agile enough to pass block. From what I read Nichols was really holding his own against Lynch in practice. Golic a a good utility man, but will never be better than an average college lineman. Not sure about Martin, but I prefer to see 300 lb gaurds at this level. Seems Martin could use another year in the weight room.

    tomporraz

  • i would like to see more beef up front myself, but footwork and moving in space is more in kelly's eye within the spread. saying that, it's still bk's call on how much we will run, and heistand's ability to teach the right technique to execute it. i'll believe it when i see it. but smash-mouth football is gone as long as the spread is here.....and that's sad.

    Run the ball. Stop the run. You win, or lose, up front.

    Coach_Clancy

  • tomporraz,

    I thought that would be the more natural combination too on that right side, with Golic as the ideal utility man at all three interior positions, similar to Andrew Nuss last year. Former o-line coach Ed Warinner had also spoken about Lombard last year as an option at guard.

    With Nichols, though, he was slowed quite a bit last year with injuries, first with a leg that sidelined him pretty much all of August and then shoulder surgery later on. That likely inhibited his progress. He will really need to develop as a potential third option at tackle this fall, similar to Lombard last year. If he does well enough, maybe he might be considered the fifth best offensive lineman and crack the rotation.
    At the end of spring, though, Golic appeared to have that role.

    Lou Somogyi

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    garyfh

  • Lou Somogyi said...

    tomporraz,

    I thought that would be the more natural combination too on that right side, with Golic as the ideal utility man at all three interior positions, similar to Andrew Nuss last year. Former o-line coach Ed Warinner had also spoken about Lombard last year as an option at guard.

    With Nichols, though, he was slowed quite a bit last year with injuries, first with a leg that sidelined him pretty much all of August and then shoulder surgery later on. That likely inhibited his progress. He will really need to develop as a potential third option at tackle this fall, similar to Lombard last year. If he does well enough, maybe he might be considered the fifth best offensive lineman and crack the rotation. At the end of spring, though, Golic appeared to have that role.

    I would love to see Kelly not go the safe route for once and play the guys that have the abiltiy to bring us to the highest level. I think decisions to play people like Golic over Nichols, Rees over Golson/Hendrix are kind of short-sighted. Of course, I am a fan and I don't get to see practice every day so maybe Kelly sees something I don't but its clear to me that if we want to comepte at a higher level, we need to put better talent on the field. I could see Golic grading out high against Navy and then getting run over when he faces a high caliaber team like Oklahoma.

    tomporraz

  • tomporazz,

    The one thing all of has to recognize is no one has more invested into the program that the staff. It's their livelihood, and it's about WIN — What's Important Now. You can't indulge in "maybe this guy will be better."
    You might be right about Golic, but maybe with Nichols he also doesn't execute his assignments against Navy, which might help lead to an upset.

    Kelly didn't play it safe when he inserted Hendrix against FSU deep in his territory with ND precariously hanging on to a 14-9 lead. He threw a pick and seconds later the 'Noles took the lead for good. Had Hendrix led a TD drive instead, Kelly would have been ripped for "not playing him sooner." That's the life of a coach.

    I remember during one of Lou Holtz's radio shows in the 1980s, one call-in guy was telling him how he needed to go with Kent Graham over Tony Rice. Another was absolutely adamant that yet another Graham — Pete Graham, the holder on field goals and PATs who was the No. 4 QB — possessed the best leadership and overall knowledge to be his QB.

    Holtz started to get a little frustrated and told the host, "You know, that's the great thing about being a fan. It's like being able to go to the high stakes gambling table in Vegas and say, 'I want to bet on this sure thing, this sure thing, and that sure thing — but not with my money."

    I still find myself laughing at that one with the irritated yet calm tone of voice he used.

    This post was edited by Lou Somogyi on 5/14/2012 at 11:00 AM

    Lou Somogyi

  • I like the state of the O-Line. It's experienced and has depth. Not to mention if the incoming class holds together the average size is 6-5 300lbs or so. Thats a big ass wall of people. Coaches gets a 9 for this positions development and recruiting. Possibly the greatest strength on the team, next to tight end.

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  • what a job Kelly has done with the O line this is such a solid part of the team we will be able to run the ball on anybody the excitement is building day by day!

    ndpalazotto9

  • ndpalazotto9 said...

    what a job Kelly has done with the O line this is such a solid part of the team we will be able to run the ball on anybody the excitement is building day by day!

    As long as Wood stays healthy and hungry, I agree

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  • A 7.5 for what could be the best unit on this team this fall seems a bit low to me. The combination of parts along with the coaching of Coach Hiestand this has the makings to be one of the top OL's in college football this fall led by potential All-American Zach Martin and Top 5 if not better C Braxton Cave. I'm excited about what this unit can produce in front of an embarrassment of riches at the RB position.

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  • We Are ND76,

    I understand and don't necessarily disagree, but the unfortunate aspect for the last 18 years is we are living off "what could be" or "the makings of" and "potential." We need consistent on-field evidence, especially in marquee situations.

    The running back corps is good and could become (there's another good phrase) the best on the team but we have different definitions of "embarrassment of riches."

    My definition is 1990, when it included Ricky Watters, Jerome Bettis, Rodney Culver (leading rusher that year), Tony Brooks (still in top-10 all-time rushing), with Rocket, the Walter Camp Award winner that year, as the closer with more than 500 yards rushing and 7.7 yards per carry.

    It was so embarrassing with riches that Reggie Brooks (5th in the 1992 Heisman as a running back) and 2nd-team USA Today All-American running back Jeff Burris were moved to defense, and future Pro Bowl player Dorsey Levens, transferred to Georgia Tech to see some playing time.

    I can't classify ND's running back corps at this point to be at the "embarrassing" level, especially given how the running game faltered last year after injuries to Jonas Gray and Braxston Cave.

    This post was edited by Lou Somogyi on 5/14/2012 at 12:47 PM

    Lou Somogyi

  • I can live with a wait and see approach.

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  • What I'm really excited about is the continued emphasis on athleticism and intelligence with current and future offensive linemen. Lest we forget the example of All-American Center Tim Ruddy, who maintained a perfect 4.0 GPA as a junior and senior, and graduated Summa Cum Laude with a degree in Mechanical Engineering (how many FBS schools can say that?). If memory serves, the entire O-Line in '92 and '93 had an average GPA of 3.5. Smart, capable big men can dominate both sides of the ball and win championships.

    Coach Kelly's spread needs a mobile quarterback; and that requires moving the pocket ... often. Additionally, with Coach Alford taking over the hybrid slot/RB positions, we're going to see a lot of new schemes and plays.

    Coach Kelly's offense can't be run with big, slow, dim-witted linemen. The size and strength are great; but I want seamless movement, excellent decision making and crushing domination when controlling the ball. That being said, we can't ignore the obvious: a combination of 5 OL plus 2 TE makes an even 2,000 lbs. of front seven blocking for our as-yet-unproven "embarassment of riches" at slot and RB.

    This year's offense is going to be great fun to watch!

    BleedsBlueGold167133

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    Me too. We're used to it by now.

    Lou Somogyi

  • Coach_Clancy said...

    i would like to see more beef up front myself, but footwork and moving in space is more in kelly's eye within the spread. saying that, it's still bk's call on how much we will run, and heistand's ability to teach the right technique to execute it. i'll believe it when i see it. but smash-mouth football is gone as long as the spread is here.....and that's sad.

    "Coach" Clancy you do realize that 16 of the Top 25 teams in the nation run a variation of the spread offense??

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  • Lou Somogyi said...

    tomporazz,

    The one thing all of has to recognize is no one has more invested into the program that the staff. It's their livelihood, and it's about WIN — What's Important Now. You can't indulge in "maybe this guy will be better." You might be right about Golic, but maybe with Nichols he also doesn't execute his assignments against Navy, which might help lead to an upset.

    Kelly didn't play it safe when he inserted Hendrix against FSU deep in his territory with ND precariously hanging on to a 14-9 lead. He threw a pick and seconds later the 'Noles took the lead for good. Had Hendrix led a TD drive instead, Kelly would have been ripped for "not playing him sooner." That's the life of a coach.

    I remember during one of Lou Holtz's radio shows in the 1980s, one call-in guy was telling him how he needed to go with Kent Graham over Tony Rice. Another was absolutely adamant that yet another Graham — Pete Graham, the holder on field goals and PATs who was the No. 4 QB — possessed the best leadership and overall knowledge to be his QB.

    Holtz started to get a little frustrated and told the host, "You know, that's the great thing about being a fan. It's like being able to go to the high stakes gambling table in Vegas and say, 'I want to bet on this sure thing, this sure thing, and that sure thing — but not with my money."

    I still find myself laughing at that one with the irritated yet calm tone of voice he used.

    Agreed. BK certainly doesn't "play it safe."

    If Key Stat #1 both improve then things should obviously be a lot easier in 2012.

    SDWolverine

  • If anything, Kelly was often castigated his first year for not playing the percentages and being too reckless, from having Nate Montana throw into the end zone on the final first half play against Michigan instead of kicking a chip-shot field goal, to doing the same in the closing minute against Tulsa with Tommy Rees.

    I think Kelly would get a kick out of being called a "play-it-safe" coach.

    Lou Somogyi

  • Coach_Clancy said...

    i would like to see more beef up front myself, but footwork and moving in space is more in kelly's eye within the spread. saying that, it's still bk's call on how much we will run, and heistand's ability to teach the right technique to execute it. i'll believe it when i see it. but smash-mouth football is gone as long as the spread is here.....and that's sad.

    So in your view, it's better to gain 125 yards playing "smash mouth" football, as opposed to gain 180 yards running the spread? I hope you're not really a coach.

    NDFB4Life