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Notre Dame back in mix for five-star Devin Fuller

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    jiggafini19

  • That's just it. We have Brian Kelly who I consider to be one of the best QB-molding coaches in the country. You combine his natural athleticism with BK's tutelage and we are onto something. I have said all along that I DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT want Denard Robinson playing QB for us. That means Fuller will have to learn to play QB before he sees the field. There is no point in having great offensive weapons like Greenberry, Ferguson, Eifert, Koyack, Riddick, Toma, etc. if you can't get them the ball. If he can't, well, he is a five-star athlete for a reason. CB, S, WR, RB, whatever. Heck, maybe he could even give us our first 10-yard punt return since Rocket. Haha.

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  • I've actually taken some heat for posting this over on II, but I've seen the kid play several sports over the years. I think his ranking is too high. The league he plays in often gets confused with Don Bosco, Bergen Catholic, St Joes', etc because they are close to each other but the league is nowhere near that caliber and they definitely don't play the big boys and the good parachials. I know, cause I played in it. Good football, good coaches, but rarely does it produce d-1 talent. He is definitely a d-1 talent but he isn't playing against other d-1 talent.

    Two, as a QB, this the project of all projects. I realize this comes off as overly negative but I really cannot see how he could play QB in college at any place other than GTECH. It would have to be some dramatic metamorphosis in terms of mechanics, arm strength, understanding of defenses. He has none of those things even close to being a college QB right now. I've seen people compare him to Golson, in terms of being a QB they couldn't be further apart.

    Another thing I didn't like is that he wasn't a varsity basketball player last year. He spent time on the JV, and really didn't impress there. I mean if you are a legit D-1 athlete that can play corner, safety, and QB at the next level shouldn't you be a starter on the varsity as a junior? And trust me, the basketball competition in that area is awful. Much, much worse than the football which is good but not great (not like California or Florida in terms of athleticism). Now I realize I could be reaching on the basketball thing and that's probably me just being more of just me relating to my own experiences in that area.

    Anyways just my take. I realize it's negative, but I don't think this is a five star type of talent.

    mgormal1

  • mgormal1 said...

    I've actually taken some heat for posting this over on II, but I've seen the kid play several sports over the years. I think his ranking is too high. The league he plays in often gets confused with Don Bosco, Bergen Catholic, St Joes', etc because they are close to each other but the league is nowhere near that caliber and they definitely don't play the big boys and the good parachials. I know, cause I played in it. Good football, good coaches, but rarely does it produce d-1 talent. He is definitely a d-1 talent but he isn't playing against other d-1 talent.

    Two, as a QB, this the project of all projects. I realize this comes off as overly negative but I really cannot see how he could play QB in college at any place other than GTECH. It would have to be some dramatic metamorphosis in terms of mechanics, arm strength, understanding of defenses. He has none of those things even close to being a college QB right now. I've seen people compare him to Golson, in terms of being a QB they couldn't be further apart.

    Another thing I didn't like is that he wasn't a varsity basketball player last year. He spent time on the JV, and really didn't impress there. I mean if you are a legit D-1 athlete that can play corner, safety, and QB at the next level shouldn't you be a starter on the varsity as a junior? And trust me, the basketball competition in that area is awful. Much, much worse than the football which is good but not great (not like California or Florida in terms of athleticism). Now I realize I could be reaching on the basketball thing and that's probably me just being more of just me relating to my own experiences in that area.

    Anyways just my take. I realize it's negative, but I don't think this is a five star type of talent.

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  • mgormal1 said...

    I've actually taken some heat for posting this over on II, but I've seen the kid play several sports over the years. I think his ranking is too high. The league he plays in often gets confused with Don Bosco, Bergen Catholic, St Joes', etc because they are close to each other but the league is nowhere near that caliber and they definitely don't play the big boys and the good parachials. I know, cause I played in it. Good football, good coaches, but rarely does it produce d-1 talent. He is definitely a d-1 talent but he isn't playing against other d-1 talent.

    Two, as a QB, this the project of all projects. I realize this comes off as overly negative but I really cannot see how he could play QB in college at any place other than GTECH. It would have to be some dramatic metamorphosis in terms of mechanics, arm strength, understanding of defenses. He has none of those things even close to being a college QB right now. I've seen people compare him to Golson, in terms of being a QB they couldn't be further apart.

    Another thing I didn't like is that he wasn't a varsity basketball player last year. He spent time on the JV, and really didn't impress there. I mean if you are a legit D-1 athlete that can play corner, safety, and QB at the next level shouldn't you be a starter on the varsity as a junior? And trust me, the basketball competition in that area is awful. Much, much worse than the football which is good but not great (not like California or Florida in terms of athleticism). Now I realize I could be reaching on the basketball thing and that's probably me just being more of just me relating to my own experiences in that area.

    Anyways just my take. I realize it's negative, but I don't think this is a five star type of talent.

    I don't think this is overly negative at all. I really appreciate the insight and I'm sure others do, as well. When I was watching his film, the first thing I asked myself was....how good is his competition? Because he just made them look silly at times. Now I know it wasn't that good. That leaves me less impressed. Thanks for the info.

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  • jrgodlewsky said...

    The Kelly camp must have gotten some word of Kiel likely to go elsewhere. The reason I say that is because we need more DB's than we need a QB and that is how we originally recruited Fuller. Now suddenly they would like to recruit him at QB? Seems suspicious, only time will tell

    This is a win-win. If Kiel commits, then ND gets a QB. If Kiel doesn't then we get a QB (Fuller). Worst case scenario, he doesn't work out at QB and shift him to DB. I'm thrilled.

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    PBeuerlein ●

  • I love it! If Gunner goes somewhere else and ND can land this fast athlete who would fit the spread as a QB that would be great! If he does not pan out at QB then get him on the field at another position. Get him Brian Kelly!

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  • dheinen said...

    This is a win-win. If Kiel commits, then ND gets a QB. If Kiel doesn't then we get a QB (Fuller). Worst case scenario, he doesn't work out at QB and shift him to DB. I'm thrilled.

    Exactly. It's not a bad situation at all. Hopefully he sustains his interest in ND. We could be getting some great playmakers soon with Fuller, Neal, Westerkamp, etc. I'm stoked guys.

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    NDGuyinFL

  • Merlin's right, just get this guy on campus. Coach him up and he'll work anywhere. Very similar to Golson IMO.

    simscj2001

  • Great observations Ham.

    simscj2001

  • Unbelievable breakaway speed.. I don't care who he is playing against, he's special. I can guarantee his level of competition isn't weaker than DGB's.

    He's not bad.. Throws a decent ball on the run. Much better than I was expecting. Already better than Robinson and Tebow's quackers.

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  • mgormal1 said...

    I've actually taken some heat for posting this over on II, but I've seen the kid play several sports over the years. I think his ranking is too high. The league he plays in often gets confused with Don Bosco, Bergen Catholic, St Joes', etc because they are close to each other but the league is nowhere near that caliber and they definitely don't play the big boys and the good parachials. I know, cause I played in it. Good football, good coaches, but rarely does it produce d-1 talent. He is definitely a d-1 talent but he isn't playing against other d-1 talent.

    Two, as a QB, this the project of all projects. I realize this comes off as overly negative but I really cannot see how he could play QB in college at any place other than GTECH. It would have to be some dramatic metamorphosis in terms of mechanics, arm strength, understanding of defenses. He has none of those things even close to being a college QB right now. I've seen people compare him to Golson, in terms of being a QB they couldn't be further apart.

    Another thing I didn't like is that he wasn't a varsity basketball player last year. He spent time on the JV, and really didn't impress there. I mean if you are a legit D-1 athlete that can play corner, safety, and QB at the next level shouldn't you be a starter on the varsity as a junior? And trust me, the basketball competition in that area is awful. Much, much worse than the football which is good but not great (not like California or Florida in terms of athleticism). Now I realize I could be reaching on the basketball thing and that's probably me just being more of just me relating to my own experiences in that area.

    Anyways just my take. I realize it's negative, but I don't think this is a five star type of talent.

    Fair observations, not negative. When I watched his film, I thought the competition looked a little lead-footed, though he has plenty of quick, regardless. As a QB, he is not a "put all your eggs in this basket" kind of guy. He may have only a "situational role" ceiling in that capacity. As for the basketball comments, I'm more interested about that when I see a lineman on the court -- it suggests the kind of agility that can be a definite asset. Golson was a highly regarded point guard, and that may be a factor that correlates to his vision on the football field, whereas it may be less true for Fuller. On the other hand, Tommy Rees played basketball, but I doubt he led any fast breaks.

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  • I drank the Cool Aid..forget Kiel(I have said that all along) this recruit will be better long run than Kiel and seems to be more in tune with ND than Keil..

    BORGHI

  • This also tells me Russel is gone

    BORGHI

  • Speed kills. Get him on campus and sign him up. Appears to be a standup kid as well.

    FamilyMan5

  • NDGuyinFL said...

    Unbelievable breakaway speed.. I don't care who he is playing against, he's special. I can guarantee his level of competition isn't weaker than DGB's.

    He's not bad.. Throws a decent ball on the run. Much better than I was expecting. Already better than Robinson and Tebow's quackers.

    Wow! I would love to have this young man on our team. He will play somewhere, and I wouldn't exclude QB. As for his competition in high school, I know nothing about it but I would imagine it was equal to or better than Kiel's high school competition.

    ndlaw83

  • Come on guys. How can us talking to Fuller more really signify that we lost both Kiel and Russel. He's a talent and that is obvious. We are supposed to be looking at all of the talent available. They are doing their due diligence as a staff and checking in with all available who could help. And even some who aren't available to convert them. (McNamara and Westerkamp) I'd say its time to relax and just enjoy the ride. We need a QB this class either way. I can't see all three of Hend, Ghol, Rees sticking around next year. If we lose one of those three to a transfer then we have no depth. Massa is not a QB anymore. There is a reason he was converted. The joys of an Ath. Which is why Fuller is intriguing.

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  • How quickly people have gotten over Kiel.....lol

    beeds7

  • Was wondering what he was as a qb based on people's comments. Then thank you NDGuy for posting the highlights. Absolutely bring this guy in. Who knows where he ends up, position wise. And I do not care, as many have already said we need to upgrade this teams athleticism and this player does that.

    I do appreciate mgormal1's insight into the conference, always nice to have some perspective. I am not worried though as I do not expect this young man to finish as a qb here at ND. And I only say that because, if no Kiel which I am still hoping for, I have faith in Hendrix and have alot of excitement about what Golson can become, his highlightes as a qb were awesome. He is a true passer that can move.

    I have been wrong many times in the past but lets just get him in here and all pat each other on the back as the national media begins to mention ND's young speed and athleticism (Darby, Tee, Greenberry, Ferguson, Barratti, Brown then hope Fuller, Neal, Westkamp and who knows who else joins.) Not including last years haul: Daniels, Fairley, Attckinson bros, Brown (who has been raved about- my dark horse for next years defensive backfield), McDaniel and Hardy (who is going to be a stud once healthy).

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  • to me losing molnar does not require cpr, just a band-aid relevant to our offense. bk will get his qb's.....his way. so unless we are really pressing for any qb, imo, it's just recruitment fodder concerning fuller and the likes......

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    Coach_Clancy

  • This kid has offers from Bama, Ga. Tech, Nebraska, Penn St., Miami, TCU, Arizona St., FSU, Mich., MSU and OSU just to name a few! I would say regardless of what happens with Kiel, go after this kid HARD!!!

    hcwillie

  • nbennyboy said...

    Was wondering what he was as a qb based on people's comments. Then thank you NDGuy for posting the highlights. Absolutely bring this guy in. Who knows where he ends up, position wise. And I do not care, as many have already said we need to upgrade this teams athleticism and this player does that.

    I do appreciate mgormal1's insight into the conference, always nice to have some perspective. I am not worried though as I do not expect this young man to finish as a qb here at ND. And I only say that because, if no Kiel which I am still hoping for, I have faith in Hendrix and have alot of excitement about what Golson can become, his highlightes as a qb were awesome. He is a true passer that can move.

    I have been wrong many times in the past but lets just get him in here and all pat each other on the back as the national media begins to mention ND's young speed and athleticism (Darby, Tee, Greenberry, Ferguson, Barratti, Brown then hope Fuller, Neal, Westkamp and who knows who else joins.) Not including last years haul: Daniels, Fairley, Attckinson bros, Brown (who has been raved about- my dark horse for next years defensive backfield), McDaniel and Hardy (who is going to be a stud once healthy).

    That's a ton of young talent you just named.. It's exciting.

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