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Weis: "Almost a dream"

  • Weis: No rift with Haley involved in Florida move - Chicago Breaking Sports

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/01/weis-no-rift-with-haley-involved-in-florida-move.html

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  • Hmmm...I think I'm sick...

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  • If Notre Dame was Charlie's dream job and Florida is almost a dream job, he appears to be heading in the wrong direction.

    bdonahue08

  • We don't know how bad the Haley interface is. But, it seems to me that Charlie and family were very hurt by the ND experience. Indeed, I believe there may even be some vendictiveness there given the fact that Charlie Jr. will attend Florida! Wasn't ND his dream school the first two years the family was in town?

    Bud71

  • So he ALMOST gets offended when people say there's a rift with Haley and to coach at the same school with his son is ALMOST his dream job...................yeah, I ALMOST give a shit about Charlie Weis and what his next job is..........ALMOST.

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  • Dreams change. Life throws all of us cruves and you just have to deal with them and move on. I wish CW good luck at whatever he does.

    We're al just dust in the wind.

    KingSolomon

  • bdonahue08 said...

    If Notre Dame was Charlie's dream job and Florida is almost a dream job, he appears to be heading in the wrong direction.

    He said that getting to be around his kid was makes the move "almost a dream." Please at least be fair if you're going to try to quote him.

    We're al just dust in the wind.

    KingSolomon

  • KingSolomon said...

    He said that getting to be around his kid was makes the move "almost a dream." Please at least be fair if you're going to try to quote him.

    I don't know about you but I certainly did not want my dad hanging around when I was in college. Charlie it trying to ensure that his son succeeds. That is it. If you ask me, it is time to cut the apron strings and let CJ be a man. We tend to coddle our kids way TOO long in this country which is probably why many of them struggle to compete in this economy.

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  • It's really a bit overboard to be questioning his parenting or his decisions relating to his family. You may not like him, but that's a bit over the line and unfair. We all have the right to make career decisions as we see fit - I personally am working in a manner right now that let's me be much more involved with my kids when I could be making much more money. Seriously, claiming that he's coddling his son is just looking for things to nitpick and criticize him with.

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    KingSolomon

  • OK, I get it, he wants to be with his family, family first, be with charlie jr., be there for Hannah. Almost a dream, be able to work with/near his son.... blah blah blah

    Honestly though, doesn't he have enough money so that he would never have to be away from his family ever again?

    He got $hit on while coach of his alma mater. His son would get $hit on at school when he was at ND. He said he didn't like it that his son would have to worry about goin to school and hearing the $hit he heard. So now he basically goes ahead and puts himself in the same exact situation as before? I don't know bout anyone else but to me that jus sounds flat out stupid.

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  • The reason that his son might get greif at ND is because of all of the idiotic and bitter ND fans that would give him grief, or at least that would be Weis' fear (a reasonable one given how even the people on this board react to any news involving Weis).

    Why would his son take abuse at Florida? He'd take no more abuse there than anywhere else, as far as I can see. And to the contrary, he might get treated well since his father will be the OC there (assuming the team does well). Do you really think he go there with his son if he thought it would be bad for his son? I think many of you are really reaching for way in which to criticize Weis.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by KingSolomon on 1/3/2011 at 9:17 AM

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    KingSolomon

  • King, I was actually one of CW's last supporters, but I find the "dream, almost a dream", not matter how you want to shape it as a little much. I'm sure working for the Giants or Pats were his dream jobs as well. Why doesn't a coach just take the job and say it's a great opportunity and leave it at that. I don't think there is any coincidence that the news about going to Florida starts to leak out the day ND is playing in a bowl.

    bdonahue08

  • bdonahue08 said...

    King, I was actually one of CW's last supporters, but I find the "dream, almost a dream", not matter how you want to shape it as a little much. I'm sure working for the Giants or Pats were his dream jobs as well. Why doesn't a coach just take the job and say it's a great opportunity and leave it at that. I don't think there is any coincidence that the news about going to Florida starts to leak out the day ND is playing in a bowl.

    Again, you're misquoting him or taking his comment out of context. He didn't say the UF job was a "dream job" or "almost a dream." He said that going there and being able to be with his son was "almost a dream." Very big difference.

    But even if he had said that UF was a "dream job," what's the harm in that? It's a highly coveted position. Are you really that self-centered that no job other than the ND job can be considered a dream job? Seriously, I didn't wake up this morning with any intentions of being a Weis defender. I'm not his hugest fan. I just dont like seeing all of these whiny, nitpicky little criticisims that are pretty out there. The guy says he wants to go there to be able to spend more time with his son, and you can't just accept that at face value? Are you really that bitter and hateful that you have to pick every little statement like that apart?

    We're al just dust in the wind.

    KingSolomon

  • Gerry Faust son was in my class at ND ... Gerry is the model for how to exit with class but then every thing about Gerry Faust is class. I met him a few years after he left and he was still bleeding Blue and Gold.

    Charlie on the other hand came in all blustery and cocky and within 2 years was coaching probably the worst Notre Dame team ever.

    I don't live near South Bend but I have talked to 2 people that do and that had first hand interactions with Charlie and lets just say that their impressions were not flattering.

    You reap what you sow ... I'm not surprised there was so much backlash against Charlie and his family ... not saying its nice but Charlie was not exactly graceful when he was winning.

    What happened to walking Junior over to USC locker room and showing him how to lose with class ?

    I supported Charlie when he was coach but lets be honest he was paid millions of dollars to win and he failed.

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  • KingSolomon said...

    The reason that his son might get greif at ND is because of all of the idiotic and bitter ND fans that would give him grief, or at least that would be Weis' fear (a reasonable one given how even the people on this board react to any news involving Weis).

    Why would his son take abuse at Florida? He'd take no more abuse there than anywhere else, as far as I can see. And to the contrary, he might get treated well since his father will be the OC there (assuming the team does well). Do you really think he go there with his son if he thought it would be bad for his son? I think many of you are really reaching for way in which to criticize Weis.

    King,

    You know how long I held out hope for Weis, but this makes me sick too. Really, he's going to leave the Chiefs and go BACK to college football? After one year? Sure, it's his prerogative. I can appreciate the fact that he wants to be near his son, but after all that has gone down since 2005 between ND and Florida, I think you can appreciate the anger on the part of ND fans. Going to Florida is almost the most insulting thing he could do. I guess USC or Michigan would be worse. What galls me most is that he finally seemed to recognize that the NFL is his true calling, yet he goes back again to college...to be near his son, nay work WITH his son! I think your position is a bit different as your son is much younger.

    Honestly, if it weren't Florida, I don't think I would even care. Hey, at least the 5 years of Weis at ND experiment helped his son's apprenticeship... banghead

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  • sshulk said...

    Gerry Faust son was in my class at ND ... Gerry is the model for how to exit with class but then every thing about Gerry Faust is class. I met him a few years after he left and he was still bleeding Blue and Gold.

    Charlie on the other hand came in all blustery and cocky and within 2 years was coaching probably the worst Notre Dame team ever.

    I don't live near South Bend but I have talked to 2 people that do and that had first hand interactions with Charlie and lets just say that their impressions were not flattering.

    You reap what you sow ... I'm not surprised there was so much backlash against Charlie and his family ... not saying its nice but Charlie was not exactly graceful when he was winning.

    What happened to walking Junior over to USC locker room and showing him how to lose with class ?

    I supported Charlie when he was coach but lets be honest he was paid millions of dollars to win and he failed.

    That's all ancient history and has nothing to do with Weis at Kansas City or Weis going anywhere else. In fact, it just reinforces my point that you just don't like him so you want to try to find ways to criticize him. That's all these threads on this board are about - bending over backwards to find ways to pick apart anything he says or does.

    We're al just dust in the wind.

    KingSolomon

  • King,

    You're so very right about the parental issues and nitpicking. For the latter we have plenty of material to choose from in his failed tenure as HC.

    The real irony here is he's being hired to establish a pro-set offense. That means you need to run the ball which Chuckles just hates to do.

    I had a discussion with a friend who's an alum of UF asking what to expect. Here's the "decided schematic advantage" he should expect to see on offense:

    First down: fade pass
    Second down: bubble screen
    Third down: fade pass
    Fourth down: Punt unless you have are on your own side of the 50 with more than 5 yards to go.

    ClutchCargo

  • Here's what I don't get, and if Pimpi's around, maybe he can help me with this, since he worked down there. From what I've read, it appeared that Charlie Jr. was going to work in the Texas football office because of a connection between Muschamp and Charlie Sr. Somewhere around December 8th or 9th, Urban Meyer resigns. Somewhere around December 11th or 12th, Will Muschamp is hired. Less than three weeks later, it's leaked that Charlie Weis will be hired as offensive coordinator, in part, to join his son in Florida, who evidently will now be working in the Florida football office, presumably while he's attending college. So, it just strikes me as curious, first, that they could put a deal together so quickly for Muschamp. Certainly not unheard of, but, hardly seems they were caught by surprise in how events unfolded. Secondly, how did Charlie Jr. get folded into the deal so quickly? He's a high school senior. Had he already applied and been accepted at Florida? If not, can that happen in the space of two and a half weeks, and why would it be such a big deal for Muschamp to grease the wheels for that to happen BEFORE there was any notion of Charlie Sr. coming to work there?

    There are some interesting dots to connect here.

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  • Why would his son take abuse at Florida? He took abuse at school while CW was here didn't he? Call me crazy but I'd assume he would take abuse at florida also. Say he calls a bad game that results in a lose, I think that he would here a word or two then.

    Say if CW went to UCLA as OC, charlie jr is a student at UF. If CW $hit the bed at UCLA I doubt lil charlie would here a peep all the way at florida dont you? He sure has a better chance to have people give him $hit at UF with his father there than if he wasn't. Thats jus me, I'm not askin anyone to agree with it.

    Maybe CW doesn't think it will be bad for his son while he is at florida, I don't know that he does or doesnt. I do know that CW was vocal while here that his son would have to deal with the verbal abuse he dealt with during his time here. Now he's back in the same situation. Bama comes into the swamp, they pound UF, bama shuts them down defensively, do you not think lil charlie will here comments like, " your fat a$$ father blows, tell him to eat another pizza"

    GOLDEN DOMER

  • Junior is a coaching prodigy! Weird how he ended up in Florida...I'd love to know what Junior REALLY thinks of working with his daddyno

    Either way, very strange move for Chuck IMO. He's back succeeding in the NFL. Why go back to college for the same position? Maybe he just didn't like KC? I don't know, and I dont think I care that much....I wouldn't care at all, but to go to Florida of all schools? E tu Charlie....

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  • illestdomer2005 said...

    King,

    You know how long I held out hope for Weis, but this makes me sick too. Really, he's going to leave the Chiefs and go BACK to college football? After one year? Sure, it's his prerogative. I can appreciate the fact that he wants to be near his son, but after all that has gone down since 2005 between ND and Florida, I think you can appreciate the anger on the part of ND fans. Going to Florida is almost the most insulting thing he could do. I guess USC or Michigan would be worse. What galls me most is that he finally seemed to recognize that the NFL is his true calling, yet he goes back again to college...to be near his son, nay work WITH his son! I think your position is a bit different as your son is much younger.

    Honestly, if it weren't Florida, I don't think I would even care. Hey, at least the 5 years of Weis at ND experiment helped his son's apprenticeship...

    illest,

    What's gone down between ND and Florida since 2005? Not much, really. We haven't played them a single time in the last five years, and so all we've had are the typical recruiting battles that we have with many other schools out there. Do ND fans hate Florida so much because one of our former assistant coaches spurned us in order to go coach there and then go on to have a lot of success there? Do we hate them because they won a few recruiting battles? If that's what it is, I'm more disappointed in my fellow ND fans thatn anything else and I'd just say they need to get over it. Notre Dame is not the center of the universe, even though many ND fans seem to think it is.

    As for Weis "finding his true calling" in the NFL, that's merely speculation on everyone's part. I don't think he's ever said anything like that. At least I'm not aware of it if he has. Maybe his "true calling" is being an Offensive Coordinator at either level.

    I just think its rather sad that many ND fans seem to be "insulted" by this, as if Weis should make his personal and career decisions based on what hateful ND fans think of him. It's just sad that ND fans seem to be so hateful, period, since that's not supposed to be the "spirit of Notre Dame."

    We're al just dust in the wind.

    KingSolomon

  • First of all, the kid gets a job that hundreds of others would love to have, so he's set up for resentment right there. OK, life's not fair, and the offspring of prominent folks always have a leg up. But, then to put yourself almost front in center, once again, in a rabid football community, where every hiccup is cause for diagnostic flagellation, well, I can only hope the kid developed thick skin while he was in South Bend.

    When it comes to parenting, we each get to make the call for our own kids and have to answer to no one, so, good luck to young Charlie.

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  • GOLDEN DOMER said...

    Why would his son take abuse at Florida? He took abuse at school while CW was here didn't he? Call me crazy but I'd assume he would take abuse at florida also. Say he calls a bad game that results in a lose, I think that he would here a word or two then.

    Say if CW went to UCLA as OC, charlie jr is a student at UF. If CW $hit the bed at UCLA I doubt lil charlie would here a peep all the way at florida dont you? He sure has a better chance to have people give him $hit at UF with his father there than if he wasn't. Thats jus me, I'm not askin anyone to agree with it.

    Maybe CW doesn't think it will be bad for his son while he is at florida, I don't know that he does or doesnt. I do know that CW was vocal while here that his son would have to deal with the verbal abuse he dealt with during his time here. Now he's back in the same situation. Bama comes into the swamp, they pound UF, bama shuts them down defensively, do you not think lil charlie will here comments like, " your fat a$$ father blows, tell him to eat another pizza"

    I see your point, GD . . . thanks for elaborating on that. And I guess I'd agree that's a risk that he's taking - but its also a risk that would be present at whatever college he'd take a job with (if his son is a student where he's coaching). I think its just the fact that its Florida that most people seem to be having such a problem with. But I'd just point out that Florida is considered one of the premier coaching jobs in America, if not the premier job right now. It's really hard to fault a guy who wants to take a job there, in my opinion.

    We're al just dust in the wind.

    KingSolomon

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