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The juveniles, fanatics, simpletons, and clueless won't get what I am trying to explain here,
--- but I can't help raise the football IQ levels of some people...pretty hopeless as witness Matty-Boy flailing around like a beached whale...with duh, duh, duh comments.
To start, we have to go back to a basic premise for most Spring Games...
--- which is that it is primarily an offensive show for the alums and fanatics, which means we will see plenty of phony mismatches to make the offense look good.
Some "classic" spring game charades of recent memory...(1) Demetrius Jones actually looking like he was a quarterback, only to find out when he played against "real" players in the opener at Tech he looked like the true 4th string scout team quarterback he truly was...(2) Nate Montana looking like he was on holiday from the NFL hooking up with Ragone, who looked like he was on holiday from the NFL...ripping the 4th string secondary to shreds...only to realize in the real world of coming into a real game he was going up against the real deal 1st string...and he nothing more than the 4th string quarterback from Pasadena Community College on leave to Notre Dame, what a joke...(3) or the elder Olsen brother playing "lights out" in his Spring Game and easily winning the MVP award...only to find out he wasn't more than 3rd string at ND and when he transferred to UVA in a huff about finding he was 3rd string...he wasn't anything but 4th string without ever seeing the field for crummy UVA....all the while complaining about how bad a team ND was...(I guess 3rd string is higher than 4th string).
Which brings me back to Golsen.
Here is one example at the Spring Game -- Golsen's nice throw early in the game to Eiffert (split outside and then crossing from Golsen's left into the deep middle) was against a very inexperienced McDaniel (who reacted too slowly to the crossing route of Eiffert...completely misinterpreting the need to get close and to the inside of Eiffert if at all possible) and Dan McCarthy...not the "real deal " older McCarthy from ND who is in the NFL who could actually play a great safety, ...but 5th year Dan who has never seen the field for us to any extent...and hopefully never will with the freshman safeties coming in the fall....and Farley, another inexperienced safety who probably had coverage responsibility (who knows with Diaco, but again, completely inexperienced and inadequate secondary here) but simply assumed that McDaniel was going to handle everything on his his lonesome (give me a break Farley! It's your job to give your corner topside help. I don't care what coverage is called by Diaco. Come up hard! Instead you are covering thin air...great job..thin air never touched the ball or Eiffert.)
And to top it all off...the "push" from the defensive front on this play was so non-existent and pathetic (oh, I guess it was Diaco's Clog and Blog degfensive push we saw last year in the 2nd half of FSU) that Golsen could have sat their for 10-15 seconds (probably longer)...and we know that with that amount of time even the equipment managers can go deep for a home run.
This is what I mean by a phony mismatch....Golsen will NEVER, EVER EVER EVER see this type of mismatch in a real game in 2012 or beyond...believe me he won't.
Do I think Golsen offers us the most upside potential?
Unless Kiel can come on big time, I believe he does...
--- but until he sees the field in real time against a real team playing their 1st string guys, and gets it done, I believe our Quarterback situation remains a very troubling question mark.
We bow to your great wisdom, Oh Windbag.......
Substantive, well thought out, in-depth reply as usual.
--- which tells anyone you have absolutely nothing to add...as usual.
But don't let that stop you from posting more thin air.
You know, you really are enamored with yourself. I hope you wear a condom when you post.
I don't get to as many B/G games as I used to because I now live in Arizona, but one that comes to mind in contrast to the examples you have set out was in 1993, the player who stood out in that game was Kevin McDougal. I say this to shed a different point of view, and that is that some times you can tell if a player is for real based on what he shows in a spring game. This kid can play, and at a very high level, but he's young and he's going to make mistakes, the difference between the mistakes he makes, and the mistakes Reese or Hendricks are going to make, are that Golson's mistakes will be balanced out by his big play ability, the other options we have at QB will not do the same! I'd rather see us at 8-5 or 9-4 with Golson than the same with Reese or hendricks because that's all we're ever going to be with them as opposed to let Golson play and when the game slows down for him we're possibly playing for a National Title!
Troll troll troll your boat...
Well, I agree with you NDIN12,
Trevor Laws was simply great in his final Spring Game, which was an indication he was going to have a fantastic year...which he did...
--- but then again, Junior Jabbie was voted the MVP of his senior Spring Game and never saw the field the following year to any extent.
One thing about McDougal...we tend to forget...he played on the great 1993 team, but....
--- if Powlus hadn't broken his collarbone, you would have never written about him....he was a back up to Mirer all those years, and would have backed up Powlus.
He reminded me in some respects of LoVecchio, who had one great year.
By the way, he never made the cut in the NFL, but he had a super great year for us.
Not enough downvotes in the world for this windbag.
Since Golson was the best QB in the spring game last year, and was brilliant again, I sense a trend.
Regardless of the trend...and regardless of the so-called "downvotes" who can't construct a coherent response...(what else is new when you don't know anything?.)
--- I doubt if Kelly will start him. I understand your perspective Pat, but it won't matter.
If anyone with half a brain actually listened to Kelly's press conference...
--- it was pretty obvious what Kelly's perspective was about Golsen.
But the downvotes never listen to what Kelly is telling them...What simpletons.
You can't be taken seriously. It's not because you call people names like "simpletons". It is due to the fact that you post so many things that are flat out wrong.
For example, you wrote that Jeff Faine was a product of Holtz and Moore. Jeff Faine arrived at Notre Dame in 1999, three years after Lou Holtz and Joe Moore coached their last games for the Irish.
It's not entirely impossible that we'll see Tommy Rees trot out on the field as the starter next fall. But this will create a pretty serious problem with the fan base, for what that's worth.
From what I've seen, there's no comparison between Golson and Rees. With Everett, defenses will have to contend with option plays and other designed quarterback runs. They'll have to stay at home even when they bring pressure because he can turn a scramble into a big play by running or throwing accurately on the run. Our quick pass plays to the wideouts behind the line of scrimmage will be more dangerous because he can throw the ball with velocity. He can stretch the field because he can throw the long ball with accuracy. These are things they do not have to concern themselves with when Rees is the QB, as we saw with USC, Stanford, and Florida State. I guess I don't understand Kelly's thinking on this at all, as we are not really dealing with two players with comparable skills.
If Golson can get clock management skills down, we will have a good 3-4 years of football.
I don't think this was really Golson's problem. Last season we had numerous problems with getting the play to the QB in time when Rees was the quarterback. In the Blue-Gold game I think there were a couple of plays where Golson had to call timeout, but shortly after the second one Rees had to do the same thing. I suspect that Kelly or whoever is calling the plays is part of this problem.
Good point, Pat. My theory is that the fault lies with Kelly. Watch him after a negative play. He burns valuable time yelling at players and then has to hustle plays in at the last moment.
I think he would be a much more effective HC if he left the play calling to someone else.
I agree with above two posts. The so called great game manager Tommy Rees constantly burned TO's last year or got delay of game penalties. Going with any QB would not be a downgrade of clock management from last year. A lot of the blame for that is on the coaches. Get the plays in faster. I say go with Golson, and not only do that, but go back to the uptempo offense. Don't need to call a lot of different plays when the defense is constantly on there heels. Look at Oregon - they run a lot of the same type plays over and over, but they are effective because of there tempo!
Good points. With Golson we can do the uptempo, no huddle approach, because he can check off the play signaled from the sidelines into a QB run. Kelly said that was necessary, and we couldn't do that with Rees in the game since he could not run.
I also watch the Oregon Ducks and their uptempo offense every week, and they run plays in about half the time (or less) it takes the Irish to get one off. To emulate them there are some other things to think about.
They use the "billboard" system to signal in plays, which is faster than whatever Brian Kelly is doing now. He tried the signs but we don't seem to do that anymore.
Also, you have to practice at the fast tempo so that your team is used to it, and in shape to do it. I don't think we're really doing that right now.
Also, you need lighter, faster players. Obviously you want players to be as big as possible, but there's not much time to rest between plays so these guys need to be in shape.
When your scoring drives typically take less than 2 minutes, and usually much less than that, your defense doesn't stay off the field for long, so you need some depth there so you can rotate guys.
I'd sure like to see us go back to the uptempo, which is what Brian Kelly told us we were going to have when he arrived at Notre Dame.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Maybe just a way of drawing attention to you. But it's G-O-L-S-O-N. You should probably try to atleast spell his name right. Kelly will treat him like an inferior factor. But, at some point during the season, he'll know he was wrong and fail to admit it. Golson is our ONLY HOPE.
I was out of town and unable to watch the game live, so all my perceptions were from reading the articles and posts until last night when I got home and actually watched the BG game myself. I was very surprised by Golson in one way- he threw the ball much more accurately than the other three and with more snap on it. He gunned a ball to a check receiver thirty yards away with a simple snap of his wrist and placed at least six balls perfectly. It doesn't matter who is the receiver or how well he is defended if the QB can't place the ball correctly and to me, this kid really has the gift. this isn't something that you coach in to someone, it is natural abiltiy. Now if the coaching staff can earn their $ and get him past the things that ARE coachable, we may have a real diamond here.
You are right. Unfortunately bk loves tommy turnover. Why he is so enamored with him I have no idea as do most intelligent ND fans.
Each QB has 3 months before the fall camp begins to do "voluntary" workouts such as the 7 on 7's. Which I have heard occur beneath Coach Kelly's balcony. I have also read that they can "voluntarily"come in to talk with the coaches and review tape. The spring practice and the Spring Game are all about increasing the individuals skill level. They now have the opportunity to work on the areas of need that each of them have. Let's hope that they all "volunteer" their asses off to improve so when fall camp rolls around they are each markedly improved from the spring.
It's up to them. Everytime Golson turns around there should be a red cap flashing signals for him. He needs to get his ass in to the film room with the coaches. It's up to him. He needs to volunteer.
Wow, thats a mistake only a simpleton would make
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