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I need some facts

  • First of all does this "Kukau" chick even exist? Second of all has Manti ever actually talked to this girl or her family? Also is this chick dead or alive.it shouldn't be hard to find out.This is the most bazarre story I've ever heard.If this woman was his "internet" girlfriend then why would he care what happened to her.If Manti did fake this whole story then he has some serious problems.I think this puts a damper on an otherwise awesome year.Swarbrick was really choosing his words VERY carefully.

  • Swarbrick is an accomplished lawyer and he is nobody's fool. By his own words, he has given his complete backing of Manti which means his reputation. The girl is fake but the picture of the girl is real. That girl denies any involvement in any of this and doesn't know any of the parties involved. The hoax was elobrate with several different people involved playing different characters in the hoax. Just becasuse Manti is an All American doesn't mean he is street wise and wordly. He appears to be a sensitive guy which might make him a vulnerable guy. Many in Irish Nation is giving Manti the benefit of the doubt, but, he is going to have to answer lots of legit questions on the subject. I have a theory on what happened based on what little I know. I will keep my theory to myself as not to cause even more gossip and rumor. ESPN sports radio Chicago had a couple of college athletes call in that had the same hoax perpetrated on them and it lasted for many many months before it was found out. We need to separate Manti the football warrior from the off the field Manti. We might get a better picture of a young person who was trusting and good and was taken advantage of. IMHO, Manti Teo is a good person. That will be my memory of his days at ND.

  • So far, Irish Ween, you have given the best posts I have read on this subject.

  • We don't know all the facts yet and the latest is it appears these people have used the same character to dupe another person before. However, I don't think those that have made up their minds already will be persuaded by any further evidence anyway. Remember, just because I'm not rushing to judgment like you does not mean I think Manti is bigger than ND. Loco Moco!

  • It appears he kept it going at the heisman awards and before the championship game. why he did it I don't know. maybe he was embarrassed or didn't want this type of frenzy sure to follow that bombshell. nonetheless it appears he did not create this scam. that's the evidence so far. don't go loco! stay grounded. the truth shall set you free!!

  • Well, the truth/fact is that he kept playing the sympathy card at least 5 times after Dec. 6th, when he and ND said they learned of the hoax.

    At the Heisman Trophy presentation Dec. 8 in New York, ESPN's Chris Fowler asked Te'o what moment of his very public story of tragedy he would remember.

    "I think I'll never forget the time when I found out that, you know, my girlfriend passed away and the first person to run to my aid was my defensive coordinator, Coach [Bob] Diaco, and you know he said something very profound to me," Te'o said. "He said, 'This is where your faith is tested.' Right after that, I ran into the players' lounge and I got on the phone with my parents -- and I opened my eyes and my head coach was sitting right there. And so, you know, there are a hundred-plus people on our team and the defensive coordinator and our head coach took time to just go get one [of those players]. You know I think that was the most meaningful to me."

    Te'o also said on ESPN Radio the same day that he hoped his grandmother, who died Sept. 12, and his girlfriend, who was reported to have died on the same day, were proud of him.

    The Associated Press turned up two more instances during that gap between Dec. 6 and Dec. 26, the date when Te'o told Notre Dame that he knew of the hoax, when the football star mentioned Kekua in public.

    During another interview at the Heisman ceremony that ran on WSBT.com, the website for a South Bend TV station, Te'o said: "I mean, I don't like cancer at all. I lost both my grandparents and my girlfriend to cancer. So I've really tried to go to children's hospitals and see, you know, children."

    In a column that first ran in The Los Angeles Times, on Dec. 10, Te'o recounted why he played a few days after he found out Kekua died in September, and the day she was supposedly buried.

    "She made me promise, when it happened, that I would stay and play," he said Dec. 9 while attending a ceremony in Newport Beach, Calif., for the Lott Impact Awards.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8856519/manti-teo-talked-girlfriend-knowing-hoax

    There's no longer any question Te'o continued to perpetuate the lie and that Notre Dame went (and continues to go) along with it. Te'o and ND learn of the hoax Dec. 6th.

    Te'o is still talking about the "tragedy" with Chris Fowler at the Heisman ceremony, and on ESPN radio the same day, and on WSBT.com, the website for a South Bend TV station on Dec. 8th.

    He's still talking about it and playing it up at the Lott Impact Awards on Dec. 9th.

    And he's still using it for an L.A. Times interview that ran on Dec. 10th.

    I'm not sure what else anyone needs, unless they're just interested in the motive. The guy lied repeatedly for his own gain, and frankly, for ND's as well. ND hitched its wagon to the wrong horse; they better get off this carnival ride at this point, and just tell Te'o to own up.

  • Well for one were interested in whether he's some psycho who was part of this whole thing or was initially duped. Do you want to know what would happen if he dropped the dead girlfriend's call to the media at the awards show when he found out? Well, take a look around. You have no clue whether he did anything for his own gain. That's your conclusion. He may have just felt like an idiot the way he's being treated in the media right now. Manti needs to own up alright but we don't know as to exactly what.

  • What was the personal gain in lying? What crime was perpetrated? He has questions to answer. The sooner the better. In the meantime, some of you can conjure up all kinds of scenarios with a straight face and not knowing the inside dope. Best scenario....he was jobbed, then lied about it out of humiliation. Worst case....for some unknown reason, he was part of it from the start. Do yourself a flavor and let this play out. Reject the notion of being an uninformed voter. Know the facts before making a judgement. There is no hurry.